Chill Pills??

March 15 2010

I am sure we have all seen fourm posts where the poster has been attacked by others for what they have said. One of the things that people are forgetting is that to post you are not meant post anything that would vilify another person. To vilify is to "speak ill of, defame or slander" another person. To defame is to "To damage the reputation, character, or good name of by slander or libel" The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and libel<5><6> (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast), each of which gives a common law right of action" (Wikepeda) We are all adults, let us enjoy the forums without degrading to bullying tactics. If you have an issue with what has been written, do some research, reply calmly and with facts supporting your position. Try to keep emotions to a minimum. Then again papers don't sell if emotion is out and your names don't go up in lights do they? Lets keep it real people. Lets

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Oh emotions are hard to hold onto and bit of emotion is ok but totally agree on the rest. How big, tough and smart a bully someone is to come on an anonymous forum and insight hurt and anger for others.Bullies never grow up, they just find more and more gutless ways of bullying.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I like your posts Lets (you're not a fence sitter), but this time I have an issue with some of what you have written. :-) I haven't done my research, and can't come up with any facts...all I have is opinions ;P In fact most of my posts are opinions that come from experience. Unfortunately I don't footnote my life, so I am unable to support with evidence, my opinions. Therefore my opinions can be and are emotive just like everyone elses. And you know what? I think thats whats unique about this site...the fact that people can just call it how it is ;P How many times have you read a thread going "yep agree, agree, LOL, no disagree, idiot, good point, wtf?" and so on?? Thats a good thread, because it is making you think...and more often than not based on opinion. Bullies...hard to dodge in real life and in forums...but they are few and far between when you think about it. I wonder if anyone has a contact list full of bullies? lol Just my opinion of course.... Jx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I like opinions, I even have one and expect to be able to voice it. I also know other people have opinions and while I may not agree with them, if I cannot disagree politely I'll think to self fuckwits and shut up, it works for me

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I understand the vilification thing, the reasdon for it .. and all....... and I like the idea of trying to make everyone feel sexy... like my profile says... with that as a basis for all thoughts in mind I still don't have a problem with people who have a passionate emotional response to stuff... and enjoying other people's emotiopnally forceful replies... I dont like arguments that degenerate to personal character assassination. Perhaps how I react depends on when I last had sex. Should I keep a log book. :p Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    is that you can be as big an asshole as you like, and as long as your tracks are covered your home and hosed! Everyone has to be nice to you...or you can sue their socks off!Australia ....we have the laws to protect those that are good at cheating!And so, do we really have freedom of speech!......No Of Course we don't, thats why we have the huge silent majority....because most are to scared to speak out!Aint that the truth!See it all the time in real life, and business and sport, lots of shonky and underhanded things go on, but because you don't have concrete evidence to take before a court you just have to grin and bear it.Cheers Nev.....What a fucked up world we live in.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I agree...You can have an opinion....we all have them....and I can disagree with that opinion....and I can voice my disagreement forcefully....But what I CANNOT do...is attack YOU...for having that opinion.Some of the bullshit I have copped lately for having an opinion has been ridiculous.I have been labelled something that I am not....by people who have absolutely no idea who I am.The trouble is....there will always be people around that choose to get angry and make personal attacks on people instead of having a rational and passionate counter-argument.I love a good debate....but it wont work if noone listens.JMO...BJxxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Say what you think i say ..... its all online forum dribble anyway and most if not all dont really care what you have to say. sounds like everyone needs to TOUGHEN THE FUCK UP.. this is not real life this is a forum chat dont get confussed with that for christ sake

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    We all have them. Some are slightly more contentious than others. From a post we do not know others well enough to make a judgement. If I have something to say I will say it without a personal attack. To some their opinions may lie close to their heart. Me I just know that I am able to see the other point of view as well. The truth of a matter may lie in between.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    i love you wowwow

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I too take issue with aspects of your post LetsGetCrazy, Anybody who has been around this site for a few years knows that I stand up against bullying wherever I find it on here, even when it gets me into trouble....I also stand up against derogatory comments, personal attacks, villification, racism, sexism..the list goes on.....I also post my face pics, unlike most of the regular contributors to the forum who may only feel comfortable 'telling it like it is' from behind their screens...(yours is lovely by the way). As I said, I take issue with the following statement you made... Quoting LetsGetCrazy If you have an issue with what has been written, do some research, reply calmly and with facts supporting your position. Try to keep emotions to a minimum. Frankly mate, that's rubbish....emotions are where we find the truth, where you dig deep and say what comes from the heart....if you want to keep your emotions in check, well that's your call and although I dont understand why you would want to hide your emotions, I respect that, but don't tell me what to do with my emotions please....I hope that was calm and rational enough for you (as I wanted to be rather more explicit - and I suspect some others may well be as this thread plays). I think if someone sticks their chin out, starts a thread, they should expect to cop some flak because we all have different opinions.....IF you are referring to the post I think you are referring to, go back and read the comments made carefully.....I certainly stand by mine - I found some of the statements made shameful, misinformative, anecdotal and smacking of the type of sub surface extremism that presents a far bigger risk to our freedoms and "way of life" - whatever that is - than the poor people the topic vilified. It was after all an EMOTIVE topic ! That's the type of vilification I have and will always stand up against, when people can't defend themselves.....not telling everyone to take chill pill because someone got their nose out of joint because other forum members replied in full voice. So, take all the chill pills you like.....I on the other hand will be prowling the forums, looking for sexy topics and barking loudly at people who use the forums as their personal character assasination tool....how did you put it - Quoting LetsGetCrazy "papers don't sell if emotion is out and your names don't go up in lights do they?" There is a fundamental difference between a personal attack (which the RHP Editors would/should look at closely) and vehemently dissagreeing with what someone has said....is that perhaps lost on you ? Anyone whom feels personally attacked by this old dog is welcome to point it out to me...but please....do it directly, not in a veiled forum post like this one. Oh, and LetsGetCrazy.....that's a pretty emotion charged handle you have there....maybe change it to LetsGetOverIt or LetsGetLaid....? GuardDog running RED HOT ON EMOTION !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I have been following this thread for a while, wondering how some of the people here would react to the OP's plea for restraint. If going by Bad Dog's post - and I have no reason to disbelieve him, always enjoyed his frank and open posts - the OP's intent was to have a dig at him, then I feel sorry for LetsGetCrazy. Lets face it, it is really a weak effort.The whole intent of a forum is for discussion! I have checked and no where does it state that everyone has to agree with topic, that is the beauty of the forum. It is a venue for like minded people to discuss the pro's and con's of any subject. Occasionally words will be typed that raise the ire of someone, and yes, people can be vilified. But was it really vilification. Did the author cast dispersions on YOU or your cyber persona? How can I be worried about what someone says to me here, when they don't know the real me?Everyone is entitled to voice their own opinion, just as I am doing here. The problem arises is when thin skinned people can't handle another's opinion, it doesn't fit their own paradigm of the way things should be. So they spit the dummy, take offense without fully seeing the problem in a holistic way. Hell if someone replies to a post of yours in a way you don't like, before you grab the keyboard and start calling them every low life name you can think of - STOP. If they really pissed you off, send them a private message, 99% of the times that will suffice and you will get probably get an apology. If that fails, block the bastard!Fark, I have been told I am a soft cock and 'goody two shoes' (loved that one lol) for admitting I was a nice guy, even been told I should not be a member of this site because I don't belong. To be honest I didn't didn't bother to reply because it didn't worry me. I like being a tad different from the norm here, helps me stand out a bit I guess. I have my opinions and will stick with them, some of them made me what I am today and I am damn proud of them.One thing people should be aware, the regulars on the forum tend to stick together, put unjustified crap on one of us, expect it back in buckets. That is one thing I admire about this place!

  • Letsgetcrazy09

    Letsgetcrazy09

    16 years ago

    It appears that a few people are getting ahead of themselves here. I have not made comment on anyone in this post and nor was it directed at anyone in particular. Don't worry, if I am opinionated on an issue I will let my opinions be known. If I have an issue with someone, don't worry I will tell it to you straight that you have pissed me off! The purpose of my post was to make all those that like to personally attack a person need to be extremely careful. There have been cases where posts in forums have been taken to court and the person that has been vilified has won the case. Yes in here (RHP) we are not real in the sense that our true identity is not known to all. Some are known to others though. I am not a lawyer, but know plenty and this is an area of growth for them. Pesonally, if someone has a go at me, that's fine, I will defend myself. If I see others being picked on I will stand up for them. Yes we all have emotions, yes we can get a bit carried away. I know I have been known to do that in person and probably will do so again. As to writing things, I try to take a more balanced approach, try and keep things in perspective. Perhaps using minimum emotions was a bit over the top, but lets face it, if some of the attacks in here occurred in person, there would be a lot of people in emergency wards because I'm sure they would have got a punch on the nose or worse! In my opinion, some of the tirades that have occurred vilifying the original poster, and sometimes subsequent posters, could have been avoided if they had done what Mooka said and didn't "just grab their keyboard", re-read the post and took in the meaning. Also, that real life can be played out in "fantasy" or "cyber" lands. There are bullies in real life, and they continue bullying in forums like this. Oh and Badbaddog, if you really want me to fire up and start being a guard dog with you and tear people to shreds, just let me know, I can do that, just not my normal style, but hey, all in all I don't mind your posts! Yes we all know that a forum is a venue for discussion, for open discussion. If it wasn't we may as well live in a country like China where if you speak out against the regime, you may just get yourself shot. Okay, just thought I had better clarify those issues and embellish on my opinions. Did I miss anything......who really gives a fat rats.........these are merely my opinions. Picks up my big shit stirrin spoon, 'don the SCUBA gear, and waits for the shit to start flying........lol Lets Debate........

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    can we have a Mass Debate????lol.BJxxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    when someone is roooly good at baiting yathey would be a masterbaiter....ahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahaEarl

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Funny... brings oxymoron to mind...Lol... Mrs P'

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Thank God and country for that! Beginning to worry we'd all been kidnapped and stuick in some sterile hell hole! Miss BJ..I noticed how the ' living under a rock set' tried to howl you down recently...as my brother in arms so eloquently put it.... 'this is not real life this is a forum chat dont get confussed with that for christ sake ' Besides, your detractors really dont know their arse from their elbow..lol Nev & Onebright: HEAR HEAR! RIP Forum: Vive Le Mass Debate

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'BadBadDog' I too take issue with aspects of your post LetsGetCrazy, Anybody who has been around this site for a few years knows that I stand up against bullying wherever I find it on here, even when it gets me into trouble....I also stand up against derogatory comments, personal attacks, villification, racism, sexism..the list goes on.....I also post my face pics, unlike most of the regular contributors to the forum who may only feel comfortable 'telling it like it is' from behind their screens...(yours is lovely by the way). As I said, I take issue with the following statement you made... Quoting LetsGetCrazy If you have an issue with what has been written, do some research, reply calmly and with facts supporting your position. Try to keep emotions to a minimum. Frankly mate, that's rubbish....emotions are where we find the truth, where you dig deep and say what comes from the heart....if you want to keep your emotions in check, well that's your call and although I dont understand why you would want to hide your emotions, I respect that, but don't tell me what to do with my emotions please....I hope that was calm and rational enough for you (as I wanted to be rather more explicit - and I suspect some others may well be as this thread plays). I think if someone sticks their chin out, starts a thread, they should expect to cop some flak because we all have different opinions.....IF you are referring to the post I think you are referring to, go back and read the comments made carefully.....I certainly stand by mine - I found some of the statements made shameful, misinformative, anecdotal and smacking of the type of sub surface extremism that presents a far bigger risk to our freedoms and "way of life" - whatever that is - than the poor people the topic vilified. It was after all an EMOTIVE topic ! That's the type of vilification I have and will always stand up against, when people can't defend themselves.....not telling everyone to take chill pill because someone got their nose out of joint because other forum members replied in full voice. So, take all the chill pills you like.....I on the other hand will be prowling the forums, looking for sexy topics and barking loudly at people who use the forums as their personal character assasination tool....how did you put it - Quoting LetsGetCrazy "papers don't sell if emotion is out and your names don't go up in lights do they?" There is a fundamental difference between a personal attack (which the RHP Editors would/should look at closely) and vehemently dissagreeing with what someone has said....is that perhaps lost on you ? Anyone whom feels personally attacked by this old dog is welcome to point it out to me...but please....do it directly, not in a veiled forum post like this one. Oh, and LetsGetCrazy.....that's a pretty emotion charged handle you have there....maybe change it to LetsGetOverIt or LetsGetLaid....? GuardDog running RED HOT ON EMOTION ! I agree man and if you look at my profile pics willsee where i have "stuck my nose in" in real life.bloody good at that but hard to kill,ahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahaEarl

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'mynameisearl2' when someone is roooly good at baiting yathey would be a masterbaiter....ahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahaEarl Hugs... Mrs P'

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'PeachypearWeR' Quoting 'mynameisearl2' when someone is roooly good at baiting yathey would be a masterbaiter....ahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahaEarl Hugs... Mrs P' just a wankerahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaEarl

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Plays the worlds smallest violin..Can you hear it screaching thats because i don't know how to play a F**king violin.... TIT

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Are you the new Sandpit Sheriff coming to play..???You want a nice namby-pamby forum so no shit gets on your bucket and spade...or maybe stuck in your fork...where you can watch it oozing down to your handle????Oh poor little diddums...I agree that a forum is a place to disagree with what is said and...is not a place to cowardly attack a person's perceived personna...If i have an opinion, i'm gunna voice it in any way i see fit...love ya work badbaddog, earl and mooka...keep it up...errr...the work i mean...cheers...Jose...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'PeachypearWeR' Funny... brings oxymoron to mind...Lol... Mrs P' to debate that with you MrsP...heheJose...

  • Letsgetcrazy09

    Letsgetcrazy09

    16 years ago

    No comeandgetme68, not the sheriff, just wanting people to learn to articulate themselves without denegrating others. Is that really too much to ask???

  • Letsgetcrazy09

    Letsgetcrazy09

    16 years ago

    The answer here is obviously yes, so I'll just crawl back over to me corner in the sand pit. Now leave my toys alone.....lol Lets

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    apparently it is.Sigh.BJxxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    cool bj

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' No comeandgetme68, not the sheriff, just wanting people to learn to articulate themselves without denegrating others. Is that really too much to ask??? I wonder if some people even understand the meanings of 'vilify, defame and denigrate'. Referring to someone as an ass or a dickhead would be denigrating wouldn't it?It is a fact {I hope lol} that we are all human and consequently... imperfect!... but I think it's likely everyone forget that sometimes...I ain't no Saint!... Mrs P' Do you think we should tell RHP management that 'vilifies' is spelt with only only one l... lolol...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'PeachypearWeR' Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' No comeandgetme68, not the sheriff, just wanting people to learn to articulate themselves without denegrating others. Is that really too much to ask??? I wonder if some people even understand the meanings of 'vilify, defame and denigrate'. Referring to someone as an ass or a dickhead would be denigrating wouldn't it?It is a fact {I hope lol} that we are all human and consequently... imperfect!... but I think it's likely everyone forget that sometimes...I ain't no Saint!... Mrs P' Do you think we should tell RHP management that 'vilifies' is spelt with only only one l... lolol... ahahahahahahahahahahaahhahhaha Earl

  • Letsgetcrazy09

    Letsgetcrazy09

    16 years ago

    Oh Mrs P, please come and spank me please, yes I erred & you picked it up beautifully.....fancy spelling denigrate with and e where the i should have been....... I know I shouldn't be so hard on myself........make that a second helping of spankings please.......lol Lets oh ps .....yes RHP are hopeless spellers aren't they!!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'MrsPeachypear' Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' Oh Mrs P, please come and spank me please, yes I erred & you picked it up beautifully.....fancy spelling denigrate with and e where the i should have been....... I know I shouldn't be so hard on myself........make that a second helping of spankings please.......lol Lets Lets, you got me a good one there, I didn't pick up on your spelling of denigrate at all... I did really like your use of the word though! I think it's way more understandable than defame or vilify. Lol... I ain't no Saint... Mrs P' PS: did you notice I forgot to add the PS: on my last post! Oooops! ;-) PPS: Pmsl @ Earl... ahahahahaha... :-D Go spank yourself... Cheers... MrsP'

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    you make a lot of sense girl! For what my opinion is worth, I'm all for everyone having and opinion and expressing it but I find the frequent outright attacks some people make on others here always leave a bad taste in my mouth. I emphatically do not agree that 'this is not real life'. We're all real people (aren't we?) and as far as I can tell many, if not most of us, are genuinely expressing ourselves in these forums. Why do the rules of common courtesy and decency not apply here, as they would anywhere else? Having a robust discussion / debate / argument is normal, natural and fun. Being an asshole towards others is just immature. It's the lowest form of boosting your own ego to do it by humiliating someone else. Is it that hard to have a think before you write? To ask how you'd feel to be on the receiving end of a personal attack?Funnily enough, I find the sycophants on here who use up most of their daily quota of words blowing smoke up someone else's ass equally fucking irritating. Baby talk, false flattery, cliquey bullshit ... it's all just childish drivel IMO, but at least I can easily ignore that. Personal attacks ... not so easy to overlook.We all know how it feels to be treated with respect, why on earth we can't all apply that to the way we treat others, God only knows (and she's not telling :P).Letsgo ... good on you for posting an appeal to common decency. A little bit of class goes a long way!lilmiss x