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Can Men and Women ever really be friends?

January 14 2011

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My mama always used to say there is no platonic between men and women. I wonder is this true in today's world. Can members of the opposite sex really be platonic friends, or does sex..sexual attraction, jealousy and all the associated bits and pieces clutter the way?

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  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I have a number of male friends who are just that FRIENDS...nothing more...never played with them..never thought of playing with them..and still have a great social time with them...I am there for them as much as I am there for any of my other friends whether they be female friends or male/female FWB's...oh and before you ask - no they arent gay..lol.. . Kisses Focus

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I have a number of female friends with whom sex is not in issue. My sister for example... my mum for another... my mother in law also for that matter.... and I have at least one or two others with whom sex does not clutter the situation... ex girlfriends all of them.. and now family friends. Hell, they even stay over with their husbands. :pHugsStalky

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I have a guy that I only see as a friend but every time I see him no doubt he always trys to have sex with me and that's generally what happens with every guy I know ha ha

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I have an ex-girlfriend who is a very good friend. We concluded after about 6 months that we were hopeless as a couple, but we remained friends because... we were very good at that. She wants love and with any luck she's found it with the guy she's with now. I hope so and have no jealousness or resentment at all - that's what makes me so certain that we're just good friends. It's a very good feeling.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I have heaps of male friends that are platonic. In fact I would not even hesitate to share my bed with these guys and be completely sure that nothing would happen. Sex only occurs with TWO consenting adults ( unless it is rape) and if we dont want anything to happen then we are mature enough to stop it before it starts. I find that it is best to get the sex question out of the way first though. Once you determine that everything else works except sex, it is easier to build on the friendship part of things. I dont get jealous or possessive over these guys but I have been known to be very protective. More like a mother hen than anything else. But hey, I protect my female friends as well.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Harry: Men and women can never be friends because the sex part always gets in the way. Sally says something like: What about the ones who are unattractive. Harry: Nah, you still wanna nail them too! Enough said ;)

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I have more female friends than male friends... probably a ratio of 3:1... some lesbian some straight but all of them are just friends... I have had "flash fantasies" (you know where just for a split second you entertain the idea) with most of them because they are attractive girls and I can appreciate that... Im guess Im just inclind to think that way once in a while but its always a very quick thought and I would never take it further with them because its not what I want from their friendships. Most of them have been in and out of different relationships while I have known them and there is never any jealousy... Im happy for them when they find someone they really like and sad for them when it ends... we are just friends like any other friend.. its definitely not about gender or sexual interest. I do find tho that when I meet a new female that I think I could be friends with there is often hesitation on her part to just relax and let a friendship develop... more often than not girls expect that if Im talking to them there is an agenda - that can be frustraiting - if I wanted more than a friendship Id let you know about it... you dont have to put the guards up ahead of time. LS

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    the uglier someone is, the easier it is to just be their friend.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'theone1983'the uglier someone is, the easier it is to just be their friend. That is just nasty and so not true. When you are eighty you are both gonna be ugly anyway. You can always turn out the lights. I find that over time and getting to know someone, thier looks become less important anyway and the ugly ones have much better personalities (on average) and therefore, after a while, they are the ones that it is easier to have sex with.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    i think that says it all. i think its an instintual thing for guys and lesser extend for girls that when u see a member of the opposite sex that whether u are concious of the thought you make a decision as to whether u wish to sleep with them or not. from the very moment u first meet them. How much they flip your switch dictates how aggressive you pursue that course of action ;) Men and women can be friends i think. But purely platonic, yeah thats a bit of a stretch i think. in very rare cases perhaps but i find it hard to believe noone thinks about sex Recently i hade a situtation where id been friends with a girl and as far as i was aware we were in a platonic friendship but she let it slip one fine day that she'd wanted to sleep with me quite badly for months and to be truthful so did i but i thought we were just friends so i kept that respectful distance. anyhoo to cut a long story short we fulfilled our desires and we are no longer friends. so sex is as damaging as it is pleasurable.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'theone1983'the uglier someone is, the easier it is to just be their friend. That is just nasty and so not true. When you are eighty you are both gonna be ugly anyway. You can always turn out the lights. I find that over time and getting to know someone, thier looks become less important anyway and the ugly ones have much better personalities (on average) and therefore, after a while, they are the ones that it is easier to have sex with. i wouldnt have said it was nasty, maybe just a wee bit harsh, but its definitely true. imagine a scale where u have bikini models at one end, and chicks that look like they are wearing a halloween mask at the other. it would not be easy to have sex with the fuglies, i dont even know if i could at all, but i could definitely have sex with the bikini models, and it would be the best 25 seconds of my life.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'theone1983'the uglier someone is, the easier it is to just be their friend. .....however, I would have used the words "less attractive" :) . I'm a natural flirt in my daily life and any one I find attractive, be it a man or a woman, I flirt with. Mostly just harmless inuendo...an ice breaker to getting to know someone better. Attractiveness to me is in the attitude of the person and not always their looks. . Anyway, to answer the OP....I'm hopeless at platonic friendships with men....much better *cough* at holding their aquaintance ;P

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'theone1983' the uglier someone is, the easier it is to just be their friend. Is that what your friends tell you? What a load of crap.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I absolutely trust them, and I'm there when they need me. Likewise, they've been there for me. We have a great relationship without the need for sex, and I love them both to death. So yeah, men and women can be friends.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'theone1983' Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'theone1983'the uglier someone is, the easier it is to just be their friend. That is just nasty and so not true. When you are eighty you are both gonna be ugly anyway. You can always turn out the lights. I find that over time and getting to know someone, thier looks become less important anyway and the ugly ones have much better personalities (on average) and therefore, after a while, they are the ones that it is easier to have sex with. i wouldnt have said it was nasty, maybe just a wee bit harsh, but its definitely true. imagine a scale where u have bikini models at one end, and chicks that look like they are wearing a halloween mask at the other. it would not be easy to have sex with the fuglies, i dont even know if i could at all, but i could definitely have sex with the bikini models, and it would be the best 25 seconds of my life. The best 25 seconds? Is that all you have? No staying power at all dahling! You know, maybe for the first few minutes you may think the bikini models were the best but most of them are actually airheads and I dont know about the rest of you, but I happen to enjoy a good conversation before, and after...and occassionally during...when pulling up for a spell. It is not all about fuck them silly for 25 seconds and move on. Halloween mask or not, cut them and they bleed, just the same.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'theone1983' the uglier someone is, the easier it is to just be their friend. Is that what your friends tell you? What a load of crap.no thats not what my friends tell me. they tell me their phone numbers and say call any time.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    gee, if sexual attraction really did get in the way of friendship, it'd be a damn lonely world for us pansexual/bisexual types... i do tend to have quite a few more male than female friends, as it happens, but i think what we have in common, and what brings us together, is our habit of objectifying women and using them for sex :)

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    i enjoy getting on the forums and making crass outburts, ridiculous remarks and cruddy attempts at humor, but its no fun if people are taking real offense at what ive said. when u said, 'cut them and they still bleed', u made me realise that i have done exactly that, however unintentionally, and for that i want to say im sorry to everyone. me being me though, i probably will fuck up again some time in the near future so just remember not to pay too much attention to the class clown.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I think it depends on the guy or girl - maybe some people find it hard to have a platonic relationship with the opposite sex, but I think its really great and important - having friends of the opposite sex, wether they are ex's, nevers, or maybes, gay or straight, its always alot of fun to have someone to give you a different point of view from your same sex friends.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Harry "provided" his reasons for why it's impossible for a man and a woman to be "friends" I want to agree with him but...how can I trust his judgement when he "passed" on his shot with Princess Leia? (WTF?) Obviously had too much wine with his dinner...again! Just on principle-I'd not have sex with him or be his friend as he's clearly an insane drinker, with a poor memory, deluded theories to compensate for his all consuming fears of inadequacy (probably why he drinks) and obviously has no good taste at all by passing on Leia for Sally-Rusty's throwaway-no less? Some would say he's profoundly disabled. High risk of danger and disappointment to anyone that knew him... He's precisely the kind of lunatic I'd be uncontrollably attracted to with his wild nature, crazy notions and likely debauched ways-travelling full speed in a brakeless car on black ice, as I dare him by screaming "faster!" somewhere between re-enacting Caligula's second coming and dressing like we're on the Death Star...with much loud music. Well-maybe not every weekend-but most... The waiting for him to show up is what kills me....no that's not it...not like I'm pining...it's more the having to deal with the ones that don't "get it" in the interim...and so don't "get it" at all. Mae West says "He who hesitates is last!" and "Good sex is like good bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand" Lady Ga Ga says "I don't want to be friends!" Who am I to argue? *smirk* NymphetamineDrm Harry Burns: Would you like to have dinner?... Just friends. Sally Albright: I thought you didn't believe men and women could be friends. Harry Burns: When did I say that? Sally Albright: On the ride to New York. Harry Burns: No, no, no, I never said that... Yes, that's right, they can't be friends. Unless both of them are involved with other people, then they can... This is an amendment to the earlier rule. If the two people are in relationships, the pressure of possible involvement is lifted... That doesn't work either, because what happens then is, the person you're involved with can't understand why you need to be friends with the person you're just friends with. Like it means something is missing from the relationship and why do you have to go outside to get it? And when you say "No, no, no it's not true, nothing is missing from the relationship," the person you're involved with then accuses you of being secretly attracted to the person you're just friends with, which you probably are. I mean, come on, who the hell are we kidding, let's face it. Which brings us back to the earlier rule before the amendment, which is men and women can't be friends.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'theone1983' Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'theone1983' the uglier someone is, the easier it is to just be their friend. Is that what your friends tell you? What a load of crap.no thats not what my friends tell me. they tell me their phone numbers and say call any time. haha.. I just spat my coffee out laughing at this gem!HugsStalky

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'theone1983' i enjoy getting on the forums and making crass outburts, ridiculous remarks and cruddy attempts at humor, but its no fun if people are taking real offense at what ive said. when u said, 'cut them and they still bleed', u made me realise that i have done exactly that, however unintentionally, and for that i want to say im sorry to everyone. me being me though, i probably will fuck up again some time in the near future so just remember not to pay too much attention to the class clown. I knew what you meant - and yes I thought it was funny. And yes I laughed - but then I know your sense of humour from your other posts. . But hon if you only last 25 seconds - that really isn't worth the drive is it??? (see I can make jokes too. hehehehe) . xxx Kisses on you Meeka

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Most men are going to try shtump a female given the opportunity. I say most! Sure men & women can be friends for life. However if the mood is right and alcahol is present and no one is the wiser - there is always the inclination to suck eachother's face and other body parts.... It can ruin a good friendship if you let it, otherwise it was just 'One of those things'.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    it would be for me. i'd come home and replay those 25 seconds over and over in my mind until they stretched out for hours. thanks for the kisses too. i know just where i'll put them. hehe.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    In this arena, I would hope not. | When I am out there standing in the middle of the oval with the crowds cheering and they open the gates...I am expecting to be charged by lionesses, she-wolves or even cougars, although if you understand animals at all and a cougar does charge you're most likely a goner. Who knows...if you get lucky there might even be two or three of them running out of the gate at once. | A smart gladiator will drop his shield and sword....let's wrestle and who cares if we get the thumbs up or down at the end from the crowd. I would settle for a ferocious battle that ended in a tie...and leave the arena to the spectators whilst we all went out to a nice dinner. | Platonic friends with someone I have already beeen in a physical relationship with is too easy. One or both of us moved on...and of course if we were fellow gladiators, we would hope that the other found an equally or better suited partner in the arena. That really defines benefits with friends where we all know the definitions in advance...or at least that's what they say. | Outside of this arena and if you get rid of the Urban Dictionary...read what Plato was really talking about is platonic love. Then by all means...and their names are legion. You see according to Plato with genuine platonic love...the other person inspires the mind and the soul, directs the attention to to less carnal and more spiritual or intellectual aspirations. | Dang...I get it, and actually do like both and often for the same reasons. Wonder if Plato would mind if I fudged just a little and edited the rule book for the 21st century? He would probably get it...since he never wrote it and who cares about the Florentine scholar Marsilio Ficino anyway. | I am glad they changed the name though...Marsilio Ficino might be confused in the kitchen with one of my favourite ways to prepare chicken or veal in a rendered mushroom sauce that would make Plato's mouth water. | What was the question? Sorry...sometimes it's just too much fun to play with my more hedonistic friends, Plato. Now to go check out what you had to say about Eros.

  • billecart

    billecart

    15 years ago

    good on nymphet... those people out there are just being people we cant always get what bwe want and we are not solitary creatures i want to have sex with all my fem friends and still be friends with them doesnt work allways read the rule book several times and then if we have to play then play its only sex those bonobo monkeys have the right idea

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    yes absolutely! we both have many opposite sex friends! not a hassle at all. but men cant help themselves and have to introduce sex into the equation, so some friendships are short lived or end abruptly...........

  • N4November

    N4November

    15 years ago

    Possible? Absolutely!! I have worked in an industry for nearly 2 decades where the male to female ratio has been as high as 200:1 in some situations..... lucky for me and yes, I have been subjected to sexual harrassment, etc, etc, etc but thats another story hahaha! .. I am fortunate to have very strong friendships with past and present male colleagues. Admittedly, I can count them on one hand but still it is possible!! One of these friends is drop dead gorgeous, a gentleman, pisshead, big brother and a boob man to boot!! We have been close friends for 15 years and I am just as close to his wife and children. Its an absolute gift and joy to have a platonic friendship with a member of the opposite sex without anything else getting in the way. .. That said however, the world would be a boring place if this was normal and not the exception don't you think?!!! .. And further to Ms Valkyrie's post - babe, you can objectify and use me for sex anytime you like!! .. Quoting 'MsValkyrie'gee, if sexual attraction really did get in the way of friendship, it'd be a damn lonely world for us pansexual/bisexual types... i do tend to have quite a few more male than female friends, as it happens, but i think what we have in common, and what brings us together, is our habit of objectifying women and using them for sex :)

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    When harry met sally moment so fucking true... I don't believ its really possible to have a real female friend i always end up wanting to mount them! Even with ex girlfriends and stuff yeah we still call each other and chat on msn sometimes but there is too much there "hey what you doing" "oh nothing gonna play with my pussy and then go to sleep....want to watch me on cam" "oh no i want to come over and help out"Typical friend conversation on msn....happened last night and she didn't want me to come over...rats nice cock by the way cheekyleo..