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BI Guys.....Time for a change.
July 03 2010
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RHP User
16 years ago
I am a good looking bi guy and have been trying to get involved in an MMF bi threesome for sometime, and have found it near on impossible, maybe you could look at my profile and tell me what I am doing wrong. :)
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RHP User
16 years ago
hehe.... why thank you... yes, well ummm... you get an erection huh.. hehe... it's nice to know I haven't lost my touch. :p It's interesting that you say we're more inhibited about MM interaction in Australia compared to Europe. I think that's a reflection on bigotry found in swinging scene in Australia more than anything else. Let's face it, Sydney at least is very well known for its relatively high levels of gayness, for nightclubs and steamrooms, gay beats, beaches and so on, Mardi Gras festival, and all the activities that surround it. It would be difficult to say that mm is not a prevalent activity, but all that is kind of underground I suppose and the general population don't really have any idea what a steam room is like. As soon as you put bi guys in a club situation with heterosexual swingers, then for no apparent reason, it seems to me, that all the bi guys tend towards being heterosexual and become inhibited, lolz, many bi guys suddenly become straight.. lolz. Seems like a total waste of energy to me but I recognise that this attitude is culturally driven. As for swinging clubs, I blame club management for promoting an environment that is bigoted. Frankly, two women together is no more or less offensive than two men together. If people find sex between consenting adults offensive, then they should be taking a good hard look at their own behaviour and attitudes before admonishing other people for theirs. It is nausiatingly hipocrytical to apply a Christian value to mm sex and then sneak off and engage in a threesome. You know? What's interesting is that gay men discriminate against bi men as well... bisexuality really has a hard time being recognised as a legitimate sexuality. Many heterosexuals think that bi-men are ... gay. This is one reason why I do not liek the labels at all. Nobody really needs a label to have sex with someone who turns them on. The hard line in the sand and all the fuss over sexuality is what drives many teenagers to desperation. Well, that's the way it is. Double standards prevail. But that's not how it needs to be. Sexual exploration should be encouraged. People should feel comfortable with their lawful kinks without fear of reprisal from a vocal majority. Live and let love bebe. Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
16 years ago
Letsplay18, i have sent a reply with details to your inbox and as well as what i have mentioned, starting on the 25th July and using the Sinsity premises, and being held every 2nd Sunday, are bi friendly parties meaning both bi male and bi female.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'desserts' Letsplay18, i have sent a reply with details to your inbox and as well as what i have mentioned, starting on the 25th July and using the Sinsity premises, and being held every 2nd Sunday, are bi friendly parties meaning both bi male and bi female.Is this just at the city venue or at the Liverpool venue too?
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RHP User
16 years ago
stalky ,,ya took the words right out of my mouth ,,,,,,,,,but finding that a lot of the woman that are hypocrites against bi guys ,,,secretly fantasise about watching two guys getting it off ,,,,,,,,,,,,cant figure it out ,,,,lol........
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RHP User
16 years ago
..can you share that info with me too?
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RHP User
16 years ago
Ninja, from what I am aware, it is the city one only. Les1959, please dont lump me into that category, i'm more than happy to go to bi-guy parties
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RHP User
16 years ago
i would love a threesome non stop 2 guys but cause of my situtation how things happen it wont happen as they don't right with hubby being home even though im husbands full time carer 24/7 he is good enough to let me be with other men why cant they understand he doesn't watch but still and i wont kiss another male at all and ask for least 2 hours minuim in bedroom as hubby has health problems is that asking too much honestly and other thing is i cant travel so guys would have to come to me
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RHP User
16 years ago
Alot of men here are straight but i am guessing alot would be open to it if the right person comes along. The thing with these straight ones are they normally don't tell any one about it as they are either embarrassed by their secret fantasies or afraid that their female partner would get freaked out..
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RHP User
16 years ago
Misswantu.... I think you're appreciation of male inhibitions are spot on. There's a familiar saying around here..... the only real difference between a straight guy and a bi guy is 4 beers and a discrete opportunity. :p . To be a bisexual man you don't have to come to terms with the idea that you dont love women. Hell, it's a safe bet to say that all bi guys love women. Some bi guys love women so much that they even marry one... or sometimes two. . Frankly, whilst I support the idea of gay marriage, conversely I'd never in my lifetime ever want to marry another dude. THat's just crazy. The insstantly attractive thing about mm sex would have to be the endless variety and the ease with which such an interlude can be secured. hehe. You say you are horny and I want it now? Well no probs for a bi guy. I think that it's safe to say that for bi guys, mm sex is really just about getting your jollies however possible. Blue balls is a straight guy's issue. :p Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
16 years ago
Guys, Thanks for the comments and Desserts, many thanks for your input into where to look further, It's good to know there are a few others championing the cause. I draw on stalky comments in relation to being bi and being drawn to both sexes for sexual pleasure, the gay guys I know are not in the least bit sexually interested in women but I find myself wanting to indulge in all the variety life has to offer. Its about time the clubs accommodated bi play, its been the main reason why we (as a couple) have not attended them over the years, it seems crazy to have such rules to state that bi mm play cannot happen in a swingers club. RHP should take the lead by having a bi section..... or even a tri section for those of us who will indeed try anything....twice of course, just in case you weren't sure the first time. Standing firmly to attention by way of a salute to you all. Cheers Play.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Can you send me a message please. I used my weekly message up on letsplay
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RHP User
16 years ago
that this has not gone any further. I know for sure there are loads of bi guys out there. Message me if you want me to point you in the right direction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
http://www.redhotpie.com.au/Event/Curious-Sunday-Nights-Sin-Sity-Swingers-16257
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hi guys and thanks for your reply's Desserts you have been wonderfully helpful especially. I must agree though I thought there would have been more of a response, is it possible that apart from Stalky, les, mmmmnice, all our other RHP guys are 100% straight???? Me thinks and knows not, after encountering a few of you out there who have been more than happy to rub the ole sausage with me and Mrs play over the past few years, again I urge a call from all of us guys who are happy to play on what ever side the mood takes, and also for RHP to add a bi section. warmest regards to all Letsplay!
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RHP User
15 years ago
i have found from expierience on this site ,,that if you put bi on yuor profile ,,that the chicks wont go near you ,,,,,,i think most of the guys on here are using the term experimental ,,,,,
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RHP User
15 years ago
I mean seriously Les... who needs them anyway! hehe. They're always wanting to be centre of attention and that's my job! I'm supposed to be in the centre of all the sexy attention.. hehe Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Les, if i see bi on a guys profile, i'm more likely to respond, cos I find them usually more reliable, less time wasting, more fun and more gentle!!! I'm talking about 1-1 play here, and as far as parties are concerned, much prefer a bi guy party cos they aint all lining up to play with moi. They keep each other entertained, as well as me of course, but nothing worse than thinking all these guys are just waiting!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I can assure you there's nothing more mundane than being in a crowd where guys are all just standing around waiting. It's like watching paint dry... especially when you see some dude going down... there's nothing really to see... just his big hairy arse sticking up in the air and his face buried in moot.... A kind of look but dont touch scenario... nah... lube up and plant one in there while he's vulnerable I say.. make him work for his turn! :p Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
LMFAO Couldn't agree more
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RHP User
15 years ago
Guys thanks to those who have messaged me but i'm quite sure that there are more of you out there. I'm talking about parties where there are lots of bi guys and the females are a side issue, not swingers parties where the bi guys are a side issue.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Most of my adult life I have thought myself to be a little odd. You see, I really enjoy watching two guys together. If I haver ever spoken of this to either sex, I have been greeted with weird looks and comments such as you're strange. I remember once going to an adult store and borrowing gay men videos and was asked at least three times by the sales assistant if I was aware that the videos only contained MM sex, and again I got the ususal strange stare when they realised I was serious. So the question is... is it society and it's narrow mindedness or is there really only a minority that are genuinely turned on by MM sex and is that number even smaller when it comes to it being enjoyed by women??? Or is this a question for a new forum topic? Shy x
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RHP User
15 years ago
Shybubble if you're a little odd then being a little odd is really hawt cause I can't get that picture of you all silked up laying there all lonely watching gay porn out of my head! nom nom nom :p I don't think many women are as brave as you are in entering a video store and borrowing a raunchy video... even if they desperately want to see it out of a perverse sense of sexual curiosity, having the balls to borrow a smutty video of any type takes some gusto. I like it! Also, the number of guys into mm sex on the quiet, is engorged. (Can I say that?). I think many more men than most people realise indulge in some form of mm from time to time, hence the saying "all it usually takes is 4 beers and an opportunity". It's the kind of thought that makes teenage kids feel guilty and develop self esteem issues. THat's why I think it is worth developing a more open acceptance of mm inter-relationships of a sexual nature. I'm not talking about men marrying other men (not that I have any problenm with that)... just .. you know... men getting their rocks off with each other without feeling bad about it. It shouldnt have to mean teenagers deciding whether or not they will forever more prefer men over women. We should all understand that it is a perfectly acceptable sexuality to prefer to be in love and spend the rest of your life with the love of your life, a women for instance, AND still satisfy your other sexual fantasies and desires with something a bit firmer from time to time by screwing around with your mates.. hehe... without this moment of sexual relief meaning something gawd awful in any moral or socially derogatory sense. Anyway, I've read statistics that suggest that as high as one in 3 guys have had some kind of mm stimulation... now that's a lot of horny guys. hehe. extrapolated that's around a billion guys worldwide. hehe. That's a lot of horny guys right there! But usually, in my experience, the dynamics of mm sex changes when women are present. Women don't really get see the interesting side of mm sex do they? hehe. I mean, porn films are one thing. Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Desserts, shybubble: You two are pleasant exceptions to the norm :) I've actually found a lot of women to be more bigoted than men in this regard. Even many of those who claim to be bisexual themselves still go "eww gay" at the mention of male bisexuality.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Women who aren't bigoted to the idea of male bisexuality are very far and few in between, even among those who claim to be bi themselves.
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RHP User
15 years ago
My experience is that a lot of women seem to be quite bigoted towards the idea of male bisexuality, even though many of themselves claim to be bi and happily play with other girls. Bit hipocritical, I think. desserts and shybubble, you two are rare exceptions to the rule :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
I know what you mean. I'm not particularly bi although at parties i'll sometimes let a girl play with me but only if i already know them, but i dont get it either. And I don't get why people say gay cos 2 guys play with each other, after all most bi females would not say that they were lesbians. I lived with a couple of gay guys years ago, back in my country of origin and I'm just used to all that stuff anyway. doesn't even remotely bother me
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drhelixs
15 years ago
I've been on RHP for many years, like a few who've posted comments (Stalky and Letsplay certainly have) So perhaps you find some of my comments interesting. I have had little luck finding good honest fun with a bi-male couple. At least its difficult to find on the northside of Sydney. I'm not really interested in swingers clubs, although certainly won't rule it out. So it makes it difficult. Hmm maybe I should..... or at least be prepared to travel a little further (stalky???). I agree that it seems its not only the culture with blokes that are standoffish (bigotted is a little strong) to male bi play. But indeed many women do also seem insenitive to male bi sexuality. I have had much more success with just MM play here on RHP as you would expect. However this is not my preference and rarely does one bloke satisfy me. I like all the flavours. I generally fancy women more, but find a good looking hard cock too hard to resist. I find myself contantly perousing the possiblity of meeting a bi male couple for the ultimate encounter. Just add a little squeeze of bondage or kink and we're on our way to ectasy. @letsplay where have you been all my life. @desserts, I'll message you to get more info on bi sensitive clubs @vfr600 I agree, Desserts and shy bubble do seem rare love to all, happy hunting dr
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RHP User
15 years ago
Ohhhh so lonely But thank you to all that have sent me compliments on my openness and honesty and for the ones that have exposed their diirty little secrets via private messages. Still no women to come forward with the same desires though ....shame....even Desserts....not bothered by two men together, but are you attracted by it??? Doesn't seem so. I just don't understand... Sex is so primal and animalistic in my eyes...what a better form of expression for it then two strong, manly, rough grunting beasts getting their urges met by being able to please each other? Which brings me to another question. For all you women out there that like to use strap-ons on your men...do you not fantasise about another man taking the reigns off you at times? Or is this act yet another urban myth?? It is after all one of the top ten female fantasies on RHP this month.
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RHP User
15 years ago
To shy bubble et al, I am happy to say that my experiences seem a little opposite to yours. Most of the ladies that I have been friends or involved with, either in this scene or others, think the bi MMF is just plain hot :) Finding the appropriate people is a little harder, however. Though having said that, many couples I talk too say finding a real female for bi fmf is also just about as hard! Honesty, acceptance and openess in this sort of (online) environment seems surprisingly a little hard to find! Please feel free to message me if you want directions to similar thinking ladies ;)
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RHP User
15 years ago
No i'm not attracted by it, but it doesn't bother me either and i do go to a lot of bi guy parties. At least i'm incredibly tolerant. Hopefully that counts for something.
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RHP User
15 years ago
in the past without any knowledge I had imagined two men together being quite offputting and unmasculine (yes embarrassingly so) However at a club one night in melbourne I watched to guys together .... it was without doubt one of the hottest things I hade seen.. They were Man so very Man, it was erotic and so sexual and I loved it. My closed mind was immediately opened .. mm mm mmmm
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flirtini
15 years ago
Davenz your the best babe xxxx <3
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RHP User
15 years ago
It's one of those "don't knock it till you try/see it" things. The idea didn't appeal to me either until one occasion after six beers at the age of 19, and I haven't looked back :) (Folks: Sorry about my multiple posts saying essentially the same thing. I'm not losing my mind, that was the first time I've actually posted here, and I didn't realise it takes a while for posts to be approved/appear :) I thought my phone was playing up, it has "issues" with a lot of sites.)
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RHP User
15 years ago
I think alot of the problem is being judged..But that judgement is by who ? Would i be comfortable walking into a room with a couple of guys going at it ? i dont know..If it were 2 girls , i dont know..If it were a guy and girl fcuking i probably would be comfy..Would i join in on any of these scenarios i dont know..if i was encouraged to i probaby would ..Work that out !
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RHP User
15 years ago
Dont think you are odd - there are more women out there who love seeing 2 guys playing than you think. In response to you other post had a woman do that with her man once - she got us going and sat back and watched............ and she LOVED it went wild..... On the flip side performing so to speak for a woman who get of on that kinda thing is so hot.......looking over at her, catching eye contact, knowing she is enjoying it .. hmmmmm.... Im done now wont be able to concentrate for the rest of the day lol... Anyway Shybubble not enough "odd" ones around if you ask me.
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RHP User
15 years ago
i have noticed that it is ok for guys to watch the lesbian movies and no one says anything, yet as you say, if a woman admits to liking guy on guy, people think there is something wrong . i just dont get it. i love women, so two women playing is great, so why shouln't women like guy on guy if they like guys :) i have never had a sales guy or girl ask me if i knew the vids i got are lesbian.. if its ok for guys to like FF then why is it not ok for a woman to like MM :D
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RHP User
15 years ago
Good to see I'm not the only one...thought I was a freak for a while there. Desserts I hope I didn't offend. Of course it counts that you are open and accepting. You rock chick! Well I have certainly had some interesting conversations of late and finally finding women of like mindedness!!!! Yay me!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Guys, Well after being away for a long weekend, it was great to get back and find the post had gained momentum and i would like to thank all of those for sharing on this topic page. Shy, Im sure that there are many of us guys out there who would love to make like Robby William's and entertain you and you are not alone i was positively encouraged to have my first mm experience as a younger man at school by girlfriend with a best friend of mine who enjoyed watching us show our appreciation. I have been involved ever since with mmf play but always within a relationship, and every time the woman has instigated the play. Desserts thank you for you kind advice and also the guys who have braved a forum bashing by declaring their fond affiliation for all things sexual, again shy bubble sums it it up when she says sex is primal and animalistic, for me anyway this is the case, if it floats my boat then im sailing in it. For those who have been emailing with discrete messages but who's profiles say straight, just let it go and join the party. I can say that whilst Mrs Play was still playing we never played with straight guys this does not mean we always had mmf bi play, on the contrary it was just that we knew from experience guys who could be comfortable with themselves were not out to spoil the fun with acts of macho ism or disrespect, which can happen. I had for my part just decided to explore my bi side more, hence the reason for the post, i have not had huge experience but have enjoyed what i have done, and recently have had my hands and mouth full with a few new experience's some of which i will try again some i wont, but its been fun trying for sure. Maybe the man of eternal sexual wisdom our old mate OBi1 Stalky can run a work shop for us starting with just the basics, now that would be intersting......help us OBi1 your our only hope.... Cheers Lets PS Lets hope this comes through with the intended paragraph breaks, which don't seem to be showing up on the final post?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Shybubble....I thought I was the strange one as well. I get really weird looks and comments from shop assistants when I take my MM porno to the counter. What arnt we as women allowed to appreciate MM sex!!! I truly believe its society gone wrong. Its ok for women to have sex with each other and talk about it but not for Men how stupid. I had a girlfriend (note had a girlfriend) that thought I was a terrible person because I loved to watch men together, she made me feel so ashamed of myself that I kept my feeelings hiden. After a long time I no longer keep my desires hiden and my husband thinks its great, he is as straight as they come but he allows me to fulfill my fantasies. YAY!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
i'm only half way through this thread and loving it. i have been a member of RHP since 2004 and have always waved my bi-guy banner high. i've had many many heated debates in the chatroom over the years and have also noticed that the majority of women in my experience have no issues with bi-guys and that a large protion of the straight guys all watched my shows (which used to be very special if i may say so myself... lights, costumes, music!). stalky, always love you're attitude and point of view. letsplay, best of luck in your search. i'm going back to the thread now. disco.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Great comments by all. It's about time bi-boys get treated equally with bi-girls! Can't believe the hypocrisy of so many bi-girls here especially! My partner in crime (she) finds MM play a major turn on, a lot of past girlfriends have been the same way, I suspect most girls won't admit to it for fear they are weird or something. At this point, I consider myself staight, no desire for a relationship with a guy, but I enjoy MM play occasionally, especially watching it turn on my girl. We've been working through our fantasies and had a little MMF fun, found there's a lot more "straight" guys that want to play with a guy than we thought, but they usually are a bit too hung up to really let go and have fun, so we tend to avoid them now. It seems a fair number of those that have 'come out' and are openly bisexual are a bit extreme, obsessed or indiscriminate for our tastes, maybe that's judgemental. I never thought I'd be turned on by two guys getting it on but have recently learned it can be just as hot as two girls doing it. I think if guys realised the experience of playing with a man is likely to make them a better lover, they'd be a bit more willing to at least try before condemning the idea out of hand. Would be nice if more couple profiles admitted that both are bi something or at least experimental.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Great comments by all. It's about time bi-boys get treated equally with bi-girls! Can't believe the hypocrisy of so many bi-girls here especially! My partner in crime (she) finds MM play a major turn on, a lot of past girlfriends have been the same way, I suspect most girls won't admit to it for fear they are weird or something. At this point, I consider myself staight, no desire for a relationship with a guy, but I enjoy MM play occasionally, especially watching it turn on my girl. We've been working through our fantasies and had a little MMF fun, found there's a lot more "straight" guys that want to play with a guy than we thought, but they usually are a bit too hung up to really let go and have fun, so we tend to avoid them now. It seems a fair number of those that have 'come out' and are openly bisexual are a bit extreme, obsessed or indiscriminate for our tastes, maybe that's judgemental. I never thought I'd be turned on by two guys getting it on but have recently learned it can be just as hot as two girls doing it. I think if guys realised the experience of playing with a man is likely to make them a better lover, they'd be a bit more willing to at least try before condemning the idea out of hand. Would be nice if more couple profiles admitted that both are bi something or at least experimental.
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RHP User
15 years ago
and, it could be cos I have many gay and queer friends, I hadn't even thought it strange to love the guy-on-guy action. What annoyed me with my ex was lending him out to boys though who would have a problem with me wanting to watch! Not even get involved. Hmph! Well that won't happen again. I think it's a reflection of my inner cock envy that watching guys get it on does it for me so much. Or maybe it's just they get to do things that I can't - a strapon silicone cock isn't a real cock no matter how hard I pull it it never cums. :*(I hope there are lots of bi boys getting lots of action, both one-on-one and at parties. Vive le cock!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'ShyBubble' Good to see I'm not the only one...thought I was a freak for a while there. Desserts I hope I didn't offend. Of course it counts that you are open and accepting. You rock chick! Well I have certainly had some interesting conversations of late and finally finding women of like mindedness!!!! Yay me! I raised this topic in another area a while ago. I have discovered though that there are quite a few women that like the idea of watching two men. I have noticed though, it is something that they take a long time to cum out about as it does seem taboo. I think its more to do with society and our conditioning. I think we would be a lot less messed up as people if it wasn't for the moral sex police.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Im wanting sum hot new sxc fun along with a girlfriend of mine. we want to be fucked thrashed and dominated.... message me if you know where to find it. 0420348942
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'ShyBubble' Good to see I'm not the only one...thought I was a freak for a while there. Desserts I hope I didn't offend. Of course it counts that you are open and accepting. You rock chick! Well I have certainly had some interesting conversations of late and finally finding women of like mindedness!!!! Yay me!hi shy bubble im friends with sallie she also likes bi mmf we want to organise a bi mmff night
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RHP User
15 years ago
Whenever I go to swingers party I ask the organiser why no single guys and why no bi guy action, their answer is always that that is not what people are interested in, despite the fact that when we are having this conversation all the girls are making comments like "i would love to see two guys getting it on." And most of the guys are saying they would not have a problem with it. I have attended swingers parties that have actually had it in their rules. Why is the swinging scene so hang up on guy on guy action when it is perfectly okay...no encouraged for there to be girl on girl action. In fact we were having this conversation over the weekend and no one seemed to have the answers why two girls is attractive but two guys is unattractive. People be they swinger or not are conditioned by the media and the media holds up all male sexual interaction as being gay and gay as in the negative use of the word too. Women and bi men in the swinging scene need to stand up for what they want and I know I would love to go to a swingers party were there were guys getting it on. SO I will continue to ask the organises of swingers parties why no bi guys!!!!If we don't tell the people organising these events things will not change.
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RHP User
15 years ago
i have been told ,,,that the identifying sign for swingers ,,is a chameleon badge ,,,,,and for a bi person it was a pink chameleon badge ,,,,,,,,,,,,is this true ,,,,,,,,,and if so ,were can i get one ,,,,?????????
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RHP User
15 years ago
yes i do find mm sexually arousing and so what if i do?am i not entitled to watch what i enjoy?i have being with many guys and women,can honestly i love cock and pussy,its the best of both worlds,i don't care what others think about me,never really have.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Wow, Great to see this thread still going, I've had a few messages in relation to posting this saying good on you from couples, women and guys so I appreciate the feedback. It's so hot to put on a show for the female partners of the bi guys i've met, and they just love to see the boys lending a hand to each other to do so. You girls deserve to relax and unwind with a glass of wine whilst the boys sweat it out for your entertainment, beats friday night footy hands down ..........or where ever they may be. More please!!! Big spunky 3 way snogs Lets
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