M51 F50
Are guys just fat and lazy ?
October 23 2011
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RHP User
14 years ago
A woman looks in the mirror in her bikini, looking hot and sees an enormous woman with fat rolls everywhere, a guy looks in the mirror with fat rolls everywhere and sees a hot, muscular, surfey guy. My hubby said that a woman sees herself as MUCH heavier than she actually is and a man sees himself as much hotter than he actually his. ALso, around here guys put all the pics up of their hot wives who have taken care of themselves as bait. Like we'll never see them, like she's hot enough to make us fuck him! Oh B, you know all my fave questions!!!!
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contemplating1
14 years ago
......even see a guys pic in a pic portfolio for a couple! Well thats just from my observation! Make it more difficult to assess both parties! (Hehe I certainly enjoy the ladies pics!) But I do agree, sometimes I do wonder about pics! Take care!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Tim keeps showing me couple pics where the female looks like she's off Sports Illustrated, and her partner looks like he is off the cover of a Dimmey's / Lowes catalogue.Usually the hotter the girl, the more their partner has relaxed. I do find that single guys tend to present themselves better a bit more. Maybe they have more time to go to the gym?We've found it easier to find a single female and a single male and mix and match our own couple.Jane
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contemplating1
14 years ago
I have to say I appreciate your profile pics, as some thought and artistic creativity went into them! (As well as finely tuned bods!) (If only I could turn back time!...........Where is the "Missouri" when I need it!) Have a good 'un!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Still trying to start the "fat" debate I see? l Dont know about couples as I am not generally interested in meeting with them on a sexual basis. I assume it to be true though as I do look at the profiles of couples who are on the forums and most of them have wonderful, sexy pics of thier wives and very few of the men. Yes I know they are using thier wives as bait and I have seen a few mention so on the forums. They tend to use words to the effect that the women are the better looking of the two. It occurs to me that men need to realise that sex appeal is not all about beautiful faces, not all about toned and buff bodies. It is about care, making the most of what you have. We can not all be wonderful model perfect but we can look after ourselves and work with what we have. Hiding your light underneath the bushel that is your wife will only work until it is time for a meeting.
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RHP User
14 years ago
All married Guys are fat and Lazy .............. Just using their wives as tickets. Thats what its about ...right?
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RHP User
14 years ago
We have pics of both of us for all to see.... And (MR) is certainly not fat and lazy? Should I assume that since he is such a good looking sort, that I am classed as one that has been beaten with the ugly stick? (MRS) Foreverlove
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RHP User
14 years ago
Not my man bebe!!!!!!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
yep...it seems they are, but then it seems also to be the case that a great many women themselves are suffering from the fat and frumpies as well. people are what they are, lifestyles dictate what effort we put into our appearances, and habits formed when young determine how we might look when faced with middle age. we try extra hard to maintain and improve our health and how we look...by regular exercise and eating a 'living' diet, and by not overindulging in sweets or alcohols or packing our bodies with salts and preservatives. neither of us lays claim to perfection, but we are happy to reveal all of ourselves on nude beaches, comfortable with being seen naked when playing and happy to share private gallery photos so others can see what we look like as middle aged grandparents...........we wish others could be as well, and not send us pics of themselves in hi-viz workshirts, footy gear or their sunday best flannelette shirt and stubbies.... men do tend to let the focus go from their appearances once they have actually 'caught' their prey (women) and never return to the gym, or to the sporting field, or even to an active lifestyle...claiming its all 'too hard' or they are 'too busy' etc etc etc.....yada yada yada....blah blah blah....lol. excuses become the order of the day, and avoiding the topic is the 'norm'..........remember him??
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RHP User
14 years ago
No Fi , its about making an effort. About trying a little harder.Relationship wise Yes I agree its about much more than your look.But we are not talking about building long lasting relationships here are we , we are talking aniamlistic grunt .....primal attraction.Its different and as I have said before its a sex site !.Brae
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Innercircle
14 years ago
God damn. My missus is HOT (biased opinion...). She's made me kick my own arse into gear by changing my diet, 'cause I don't want to feel like Im letting the team (or myself, health wise) down. A change of diet (f#ck exercise!) and watching what (and when) I eat has seen a 22kg drop in ten weeks. No hunger over that period, just swapped late night pizza and booze for more fruit and vegies. The photos on our profile are pre-weight loss... I think I hid it well ;)I don't think people consider that they can let themselves "go" just because their wife/partner is "hot". I just think Aussies are complacent now. You have to WANT to be healthy. Sometimes that comes early in life, sometimes later, often never.As for clothing... man, the amount of people on here "selling themselves" (every profile is an advert!) with just plain boring and crappy disgusting clothing is mind blowing. Almost as bad as 'cock shots' and out of focus mobile phone pics. MAKE A F#CKING EFFORT. Sell yourself to us! :)
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RHP User
14 years ago
Firstly we thought swinging is about body shape does not matter, you will find your match. If two couples get together and both ladies have very big butts or the guys have a beer pot where is problem?? As long as its a fair swap. A perfect swap we don't think is out there. This talk about everyone being body beautiful ...well?? For us we were both slim .....wifie under 55kg and me under 80kg until we both hit about 42 yrs old...then we had to maintain things .....Jenny Craig diets, Gym etc and what we find every 2-3 years some maint has to be done. Be damn if we are going to give up our favourite foods and having a wine but saying that our diet today is vastly more healthy than we did when we were 20 -40 . Keeping weight off has other benefits ......not wearing out knee, hip, and back joints as quick by overloading them. For those with health insurance....check if you are outside correct BMI, with a doctors note your health fund may pay your gym!l
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
Unfortunately it seems about 90% of Aussie men fall into the yobbo category..sigh.. more interested in sports & beer than making an effort to look even half decent. Often when at a swingers club, party or even just out on the street....my lady will whisper to me...all the guys look the same..same clothes, same hair styles, same mannerisms....Why?
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Innercircle
14 years ago
Because they are clones D+B. Just like in Star Wars. But not as cool :PCouldn't think of anything worse than blending into the crowd...
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'DonnaBrett'Unfortunately it seems about 90% of Aussie men fall into the yobbo category..sigh.. more interested in sports & beer than making an effort to look even half decent. Often when at a swingers club, party or even just out on the street....my lady will whisper to me...all the guys look the same..same clothes, same hair styles, same mannerisms....Why?
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Back_Again
14 years ago
I'm happy to be in the 10 percent that aren't unfit/fat male, where the female of the couple is hot. Trev & Kilee
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
Quoting 'rockercouple80' Haha...good one Rockers!! Because they are clones D+B. Just like in Star Wars. But not as cool :PCouldn't think of anything worse than blending into the crowd...
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LoveFrenzy
14 years ago
There is no substitute for hard work and effort. That includes eating the right foods and exercising. Sadly Australia is the most obese country (per capita) in the world - over 50% of the population are over weight - that's women as well men.We have commented before about the lack of effort some people make when they go to clubs or parties. Surely half the fun is dressing up and feeling your sexy best!
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Innercircle
14 years ago
Thats right! We spend an hour just getting ready to go get some milk :PQuoting 'LoveFrenzy' There is no substitute for hard work and effort. That includes eating the right foods and exercising. Sadly Australia is the most obese country (per capita) in the world - over 50% of the population are over weight - that's women as well men.We have commented before about the lack of effort some people make when they go to clubs or parties. Surely half the fun is dressing up and feeling your sexy best!
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
Haha...That's why you guys are so cool!!! Quoting 'rockercouple80' Thats right! We spend an hour just getting ready to go get some milk :P
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RHP User
14 years ago
Can't imagine why they are allowed in dressed like that, no way . Not here! No way...see ya !
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RHP User
14 years ago
CI Says Can't imagine why they are allowed in dressed like that, no way . Not here! No way...see ya ! We have never been refused entry at any swing club including CI??? Do you really mean couples turn up wife all sexy and hubby dressed in BBQ / work gear unshaven etc to swing....we have never witnessed that EXCEPT at coffee meets ? But never ever ....ever at a organised swingers event....DUH! Are iminginations running out of control here? We simply think our expectations are not met...................................next! Why complain? Its just too complicated all the excuses and reasons, we reckon invite others on the same cloud as you, or hitch a ride on a cloud you like.
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RHP User
14 years ago
sadly i have to agree... so many guys dont make much effort or know what to do with a girl? But thats ok...when they meet me, iam laughin...just have to push brett away...hahah
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RHP User
14 years ago
Maybe the guys have read all the fatty bashing forums where the consensus is that if you carry a few extra kilos you have a much better personality than those 'stuck up, skinny model types'. Every time I pull through the Hungry Jacks drive through I feel a little guilty, until I tell myself I am just working on my personality..
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RHP User
14 years ago
'There is no substitute for hard work and effort. That includes eating the right foods and exercising.'There's just no way round this one folks. LoveFrenzy has it right: it takes effort to remain an appropriate size (we're not talking about supermodels here, just staying under the recommnded BMI). And don't get us started on clothes/style.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I don't believe this to true ( well for single guys anyway ) myself I'm a ex pro boxer and have been retired for many years and still look after myself I always dress to impress even just going to the shops and will not go out with out smell great I think when you take care of yourself and look and smell good you actully feel really good about your self and you can boost your self astem so yes you get if looking for someone just about anyone you like but yes alot of men don't take care of them selfs And them complain " how come no one looks at me like that " well sorry have a bit of pride guys and well you just never know but on a whole most men out there these days do
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RHP User
14 years ago
The biggest problem here is guys who are married and swinging or guys coming out of a long term marriage, the great majority of them just caught the fish and then proceeded let themselves go completely. The single guys want to keep getting laid so tend to (more often than not) keep themselves in good shape.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Funny, I've been known to get changed into my medieval ballgown to go across the road and get milk Seriously, for what I paid for that damn thing, I'll get my money's worth out of it As far as appearance goes for a date/club, well, that's an all new ballgame I'm no supermodel, but I tried skinny once and actually didn't like it (on me) so I'm happy with, what is for me, a comfortable healthy size. And if I look in the mirror and go "Damn, I'd hit that" then that's all that matters Quoting 'rockercouple80' Thats right! We spend an hour just getting ready to go get some milk :P
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RHP User
14 years ago
Sure, my gut may not be as big as some, but I always make sure I have at least one clean blue singlet and pair of stubbies, and my thongs are washed. If I have enough notice, I make sure to have a shower no more than 3 days before an event so I smell my best.
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RHP User
14 years ago
i gave up smoking...for my health.....and packed the weight on...made it to105kgs before a turn around....then i went through a major health crisis and my weight plummeted to 55kgs....all in the last 5 or 6 years.....now i hover aroung 85 to 90 kgs. i may not be sculpted or defined, but i am the healthiest i have been in a very long time, and confident enough with how i look to not only be here, but to stand naked on a beach with my wife, who has no body image difficulties at all.. life is not always as kind as it could be...and no matter what you try, sometimes its up to chance.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I've seen some pretty unattractive people OOZE sex appeal by confidence and charisma. How much someone weighs or how they dress only becomes an issue when that person is uncomfortable with it and becomes self conscious. I'd like raise the topic of smell.How important is this sense when it comes to coupling?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Always asking the hard questions.....or is that asking for trouble ? he he I think the term you're looking for is 'Contented cow syndrome' and yep....the male half of a couple can fall into this dreaded position as easily as a woman can
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Mr_MrsJones
14 years ago
Quoting 'justenough' Firstly we thought swinging is about body shape does not matter, you will find your match. If two couples get together and both ladies have very big butts or the guys have a beer pot where is problem?? As long as its a fair swap. A perfect swap we don't think is out there. This talk about everyone being body beautiful ...well?? This idea is great but more often than not the guy with the big gut expects to get a woman who doesn't have a big butt and vice versa. Everyone around is looking to upgrade if only for a night and more often than not people are not prepared to settle with someone who puts in as much effort as they do (very little). This is where the problem lies. People who don't make an effort complain that no one wants them and people who do make an effort feel that they are not getting a fair deal. In answer to the original question I think the answer is yes. A lot (not all) guys don't put in an effort and expect the woman to carry the can. Why would there be so many profiles with hot pics of women all dressed up and not a single shot of Mr to be seen if this is not the case
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Mr_MrsJones
14 years ago
Quoting 'justenough' Firstly we thought swinging is about body shape does not matter, you will find your match. If two couples get together and both ladies have very big butts or the guys have a beer pot where is problem?? As long as its a fair swap. A perfect swap we don't think is out there. This talk about everyone being body beautiful ...well?? This idea is great but more often than not the guy with the big gut expects to get a woman who doesn't have a big butt and vice versa. Everyone around is looking to upgrade if only for a night and more often than not people are not prepared to settle with someone who puts in as much effort as they do (very little). This is where the problem lies. People who don't make an effort complain that no one wants them and people who do make an effort feel that they are not getting a fair deal. In answer to the original question I think the answer is yes. A lot (not all) guys don't put in an effort and expect the woman to carry the can. Why would there be so many profiles with hot pics of women all dressed up and not a single shot of Mr to be seen if this is not the case
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RHP User
14 years ago
Eh.... It's a two way street. I'm no Adonis, I have a few extra pounds, but alot of the profiles I see are athletic guys with double wide girls.... And I don't mind a girl with a few extra kg's that's ok, but I've seen some beefcakes in my time so find this thread a tunnel visioned.
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RHP User
14 years ago
We agree that is is usually the guy that puts us off any couple, and often it's Russell that will say 'I can't imagine HIM on or near you, no way'.....We have met some couples that are equally attractive, but it seems to be in the minority.... Mich
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RHP User
14 years ago
We totally agree that it is usually the guy that puts us off any couple, and it is often Russell that is the one that says "I can't imagine HIM anywhere near you, no way". We have met some equally attractive couples, but it is in the minority! Mich
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RHP User
14 years ago
Mr and Mrs Jones says: Everyone around is looking to upgrade if only for a night and more often than not people are not prepared to settle with someone who puts in as much effort as they do (very little). This is where the problem lies. We agree unfortunately, But the Good news is it just takes a little longer find compatable couples, who are realists. No matter what your body shape or sexual orintation there is a match out there. . Too much of this slaming body shapes will turn some couples away from swinging. . We have a theory, if the girls are Bi Sexual the other girl is the main driver for her being there, combined maybe that her husband is uneasy around another naked male / insecure seeing his wife with another guy. She is going to be highly critcal of the guy because their 1st choice is a extra girl. . In all honesty from what we have seen, we would be hard pressed not to say its about 50/50 to which sex could well do with a Gym and Jenny Craig membership.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think we all do at times....and then bitch about how little we're getting. xx SnS
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RHP User
14 years ago
haha where u lookin lmao
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RHP User
14 years ago
We actually recently added a bit on this to our profile .... Along the lines of .... For couples, please don't hide behind your gorgeous wives guys etc etc .... Must be a good 80% of couples profiles we look at ONLY have pics of the woman ..... WTF?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hay guys, I think it's important to pay respect to those guys who work there arse off while the wife hits the gym 7 days a week. I work 16 hour days and still find time to maintain my body as I always have but I can tell you it's not easy!
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Goodvintage
14 years ago
I remember him...that goes back a few years...wonder if he has changed...?
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RHP User
14 years ago
All it takes is a bit of discipline and getting into a healthy routine. It's not about killing yourself or giving up everything you like. What I've found is that people don't modify what they do as they get older. As you get older the metabolism slows, muscles mass decrease but yet most people still drink & eat the same. It's a lot easier to maintain than it is to get fat and then try & lose it. I think many blokes have some denial going on too. Such as "I'm not getting fatter, the drier shrunk my clothes" Guys need a wake up call, not only does it looks bad, it's unhealthy as well as effecting stamina & performance,
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RHP User
14 years ago
Actually, I agree with most of what's been said, and I readily admit that I'm not in my svelte best nick at the moment... other priorities prevail... However, as I read through the various comments (all good by the way...) my little voice keeps screaming out "why stop there?" Hmmm? Bring out your needy, your sleazy, your pretentious, your inarticulate, your bogans, your fashion victims, your freaks, your weirdos, your insecure, your cheaters, your liars, your manipulators and exploiters, all those who think "great sex" is just banging it in there, everyone using sex to get over their own personal hangups, and my favourite - anyone who thinks "wanna fuck?" counts as foreplay! And your fat and ugly! But I'm not judgmental! I can accept all of that! Each to his or her opinion - not to condone the use of any specific stereotype or sexual characterization that may, or may not offend some person or persons of any particular leaning that may or may not agree with whatever the hell we think the social norms are, or possibly could be if those bloody politicians on whatever side of the fence they've decide to sit on today could make up their own minds, and stop being manipulated by those damned capitalist pigs, and ..... ANYWAY.... Well, you get my point? I can accept that most people are less than perfect. Especially those fat slobs that have let themselves go! But you know what I really hate (in a totally non-judgemental way, so not as to offend anyone...) I hate people that can't spell! Detest them! And fat slobs that can't spell!!!! In flannelette shirts! Don't get me started.... ps if I've inadvertently misspelt anything in this rant, blame the iPhone... It wasn't me!!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
I could say the same thing about a lot of women i've seen out there.. its not a male specific trait, some people just give up, believe me and from the guys perspective what gets hard to handle is these women are out there expectin 9s and 10s out of 10 when they themselves are a 6 at best. There are plenty of out of shape and flabby women out there too and its just as offputting as a fat bloke believe me. Personally I think the outside is reflective of the inside and if its disordered and poorly kept on the outside, you can bet the inside/mind is similar. Big Red Flag. Havin said that, I've met and dated some stunning (in my opinion) women also, and they were just as fu**in nuts in some cases worse! So who knows, I think people in general have stopped caring.
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Innercircle
14 years ago
Wots rong wit not bein able to speel? And stop havin a go at me flanny ya old bugers.
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RHP User
14 years ago
We have always avoided in the past writing on these forums as we don't want people to judge us based on our comments, but when we read this one we couldn't help but feel insulted. How can people be so superficial and vain? More often than not these people that are so completely self absorbed are only interested in their own personal satisfaction and from our experience have generally been dud roots! Yes it is important to look after yourself but not everybody has 5 hours a day spare on top of their busy workloads as well as enough disposable income, to spend workng out in a gym!!!!! Niether of us are overweight as we do try to keep fit with the limited time we have but we would never judge anyone on this site based soley on their physical appearance. So to all you vain people out there, GET OVER YOURSELVES...YOUR NOT THAT GOOD!!!!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
I'm not guilty of this one folks
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RHP User
14 years ago
cany get fat and unfit when ya race ironman and surf ya ring out, sitting on a couch or eating fast food 4 days a week will do it to ya, the body is a temple and you only get 1 so LOOK after it, cheers xx
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RHP User
14 years ago
In response to thegoodies:A site like this is going to be full of rejections and acceptance, as everyone's personal preference on what is physically attractive is different.To pick up on the 5 hours a day comment, really, we are not training for the Olympics or Mr/Mrs Universe, it's simply changing one's diet and incorporating some physical activity into one's day. It doesn't have to take over your life or be expensive. Go for a run, it's free. Walk somewhere rather than taking the car. Take up some hobbies that involve some physical exertion. Be a participant rather than a spectator. The gym is our last resort, boring and expensive.Regarding vanity and treating people based on their looks, with our personal friends (outside of the swinging world), we couldn't care at all what they look like, our friendship is based on personalities. With our playmates, we do need an initial physical attraction to be turned on and want to participate in sexual acts with them. If we find fit and healthy bodies attractive, I don't see a problem with that. No one is saying that overweight people are lesser people or inferior, we just don't find them as sexy.T&J
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RHP User
14 years ago
jasn umm I'm pretty sure you were NOT the topic of convo here, good grief man mugovera, you also do NOT fall into this category ....again
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RHP User
14 years ago
Male half responding here.I hope we are not fitting into this category, I certainly don't think I am much to look at and I know mrs madmanx is better looking than I but I do put a fair amount of effort to try and ensure I don't become overweight. (and we do have photo's of both parties)Earlier mentioned saying we are all superficial for talking about looks; lets be serious here; as couples we are looking for people we can be attracted to. this does include a personality but physical appearance is important!!I am personally annoyed by the constant "accept me as I am" cry of those that allow themselves to get overweight. aside from sex we are setting an example for our children etc. I feel embarrassed when I gain even a small amount of weight so I do something about it.In saying that I am a redhead and will always be white and a little on the average side; I don't think I will ever succeed in gaining a 6 pack. lol. I hope I make the best of what I have and that is all I ask of people around me.
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RHP User
14 years ago
We have been trying to meet up with couples in Canberra , and as one person already stated VB Tshirts, shorts and thongs. It is not a casual, do you want a snag!! Let the wife do all the work, hey! That’s why I believe some many women are bi curious, at least they know that one of the couple is hot. Otherwise they miss out because they have been let down by their male half. Have some decorum and style guys. We have knocked back meets because of this. The women are beautiful and sexy, the men just fauglies. We are not super models or athletes but we look after ourselves and take care of our appearance.
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RHP User
14 years ago
No clubs (that I know of) in Darwin and yet to go a party. But have met a few singles and couples on this and other sites. Dressing... Well... Darwin is pretty casual anyway but generally both sides make an effort first time around. Having said that have had guys turn up in shorts n singleton with a hot dressed missus, but also some girls in "lowes housewife" wear. End of the day it doesn't matter as they have all been great people and good fun to play with. Fat people - well... Actually I really enjoy BBWs cos there is so much to play with - yumm!! I saw on the side od a Wicked camper (I think it was there) "confidence is what makes woman sexy". So true!! If she is comfortable with herself then so am I. Very comfortable! Have met a couple of "sexy slim bod" girls who thought they were too fat, and just lay back waiting for a fuck. No effort. I much prefer somebody who is happy with who they are (regardless of size) and makes an effort to enjoy and be enjoyable. Singlets, flannie shirts, thongs, tuxedos - they all come off in the end. It's what's inside that I'm interested in!
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