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Are Alpha males still relevant ?

September 22 2015

Don't get me wrong. I am not an Alpha male, and understand there are all types. My understanding is the Alpha male is strong & takes charge (nothing wrong with that in the right circumstances) I am just throwing wild thoughts around inside my head in relation to the modern world. However, given that it is the age of equality, is it appropriate. As I said I am not an Alpha male, but do not take shit or abuse, and will argue my point up to a point. I understand some women like the men to take control, but in modern society and equality don't women like to be consulted and / or a discussion and mutual agreement (that is my preference). Or do women that prefer Alpha men like to be told what to do. Maybe this works with compliant women, but how does this work with a stronger willed / self confident woman. What is the difference between a strong Alpha male with a compliant woman, and the same man with a strong independent woman. Is this where abuse starts where the strong Alpha man expects you to comply. My question is how does the strong Alpha man fit in with todays equality driven society ?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Do not abuse women. Ever. That is the domain of beta, if not omega males who are duty bound to have the shit beaten out of them by real alpha males if and when they find out about it. It's not about equality, chivalry still has its place. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I had better have a re-read after I take my medication. A lot of supposition and assumptions there, some anyway...

  • RHP

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    10 years ago

    it all sounds a bit of nonsense, but there is nothing wrong with being a dominant type of personality, you don't have to be abusive of people. An alpha male isn't necessarily a misogynist, just like an alpha-female isn't immediately a misandrist.

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    10 years ago

    pffffft! Don't fit in or exist in my world. Give me a GOOD man any day. 😊 Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    You can both be type A's and it still works. Both sexes can appreciate strength. There's balance...and then there's butting heads!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    there's a if difference between an alpha male and an abusive one.... And I think too many people get them quite confused.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Some people are natural leaders.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Still has respect and treats his partner and others as such. He takes control but remains within the limits and boundaries he and his partner have set out. If a female prefers her partner to take the alpha role, it doesn't mean she's compliant. It may mean she makes decisions at work all day as well as decisions with regards to the kids and would like someone else to take charge and make some decisions. There is no difference between an alpha male with a strong independent woman and an alpha male with a compliant woman because in both situations, he treats his partner with the same level of respect. Alpha males do not expect their partner to comply but makes decisions for his and his partners benefit and pleasure. Is this where abuse starts? Only when it becomes about him and him only with no regard to her wants, needs and wellbeing. When it hurts either one of the parties physically, emotionally, deprives them of human rights, causes humiliation and degradation (and I'm not talking about the kinky kind that some like to experience) and deprive of general daily needs to live and causes social isolation - any of that is abuse. That's not being an alpha male. That's being a low life. An alpha male has a strong firm hold on knowledge of what to do and how to do it with strong arms to give that warm, firm, protective hug.

  • RHP

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    10 years ago

    Alpha male thread was a nightmare xxFreya

  • RHP

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    10 years ago

    Despite our fascination with ordering people into their little niches so we feel more comfortable in dealing with the world, it doesn't work on anything but the broadest theoretical sense so it's all rather pointless.

  • RHP

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    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Freya70' Alpha male thread was a nightmare xxFreya I didn't even think about checking

  • RHP

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    10 years ago

    Single Guy,fom memory Meeka was the OP,not sure exactly what it was called..seemed to bring out the alpha males for sure 😳xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Men offering comment seeking to portray themselves as Alpha, other men pegging those men back trying to promote themselves as more Aloha than Alpha, a few women discussing the general personality traits which they respond to..... and one bloke offering a 7 page long synopsis of the definitions, history, and role of man in modern society. And........ go lol 😆 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    10 years ago

    We have a current squirting thread and now an alpha male thread. Better do the online grocery order.........

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I'm really not sure about this one. I think the term has continued but in reality as society has come so far I feel it is a term only. Understandably in tribal times alphas were very much needed as they are in pack animals. Nowadays I think it just refers to a dominant male, whether that man be a good or bad being. I for one would never have been an alpha, probably more a story teller or musician. Honestly of those that I would have considered alpha I generally do not get along with.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    The alpha male will fit in by doing what he does best - enriching, inspiring, encouraging and motivating change, among other things. Both the term itself and words dominance and submission (both by association), have little significance to me other than that as defined by and in relation to animal behaviour - all of which have been overused, misused and mean different things to different people to the extent of having been rendered totally useless. I don't see the two words as being automatically synonymous with the term itself, so I don't think that a relationship (or any interaction) with one need be defined as being one or the other. I see it as being more of a balanced equilibrium - even more so (if not especially) with his chosen partner.

  • RHP

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    10 years ago

    And never look for other peoples approval. So does that make me a 'alpha male '. ? Dont think so .. Im quite happy to meet anyone for who they are not what they want me to think they are. Break bread with me , have a wine / beer , and a good laugh , then we have comfort ... Push and I push back... Worked for me so far...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I have just learnt you should know a bit more about a subject before posting. Have just done a bit of research as quoted below: Urban Dictionary The alpha male is an act that is performed by males usually in their teens and twenties who act tough, are loud, and have to be the center of attention or they feel insecure. When a man is successful and in his thirties he no longer acts this way because he has grown up and realized that the entire alpha male act is phony Worth Ethic CorporationMake no mistake: the world needs alpha males. When used appropriately, their courage, confidence, tireless energy, and fighting spirit make them natural leaders in competitive situations. The trouble comes when they use their exceptional strengths inappropriately or carry them to such extremes that they turn into tragic flaws: their confidence becomes arrogance, their toughness becomes belligerence, and their competitiveness becomes a fight to the death in which even teammates are seen as rivals that have to be vanquished. Unfortunately for many alpha males, what works in a jungle or on a battlefield - or during a genuine crisis - is not always appropriate in today's business environment. Nowadays, leaders are expected to do more than command and control; they're called upon to motivate, inspire, teach, communicate, and model integrity and personal growth. Such skills do not come naturally to most alpha males, and those who fail to develop them are increasingly out of place. So, my only question is: How do they fit with the modern society of supposed equality. Is this why there are fewer females in top executive jobs ?

  • RHP

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    10 years ago

    Heck

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Single_Guy4U' Nowadays, leaders are expected to do more than command and control; they're called upon to motivate, inspire, teach, communicate, and model integrity and personal growth. Such skills do not come naturally to most alpha males, and those who fail to develop them are increasingly out of place. Really? I think it's a role that fathers seem to step into and fill rather quickly, some of whom are undoubtedly alphas. Quoting 'Single_Guy4U' So, my only question is: How do they fit with the modern society of supposed equality. Is this why there are fewer females in top executive jobs ? No. In short, the corporate world is still very much a gentlemen's club, for want of a better description - run by men - promoting men.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Men offering comment seeking to portray themselves as Alpha, other men pegging those men back trying to promote themselves as more Aloha than Alpha, a few women discussing the general personality traits which they respond to..... and one bloke offering a 7 page long synopsis of the definitions, history, and role of man in modern society. And........ go lol 😆 - Posted from rhpmobile And one guy bagging everyone else to make himself look clever

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    In order for there to be an "Alpha", there has to at least be a "Beta". This concept is used as a method of analysing group dynamics, looking at the roles and behaviours that human male animals commonly adopt in social situations where there are multiple men in one spot. Therefore, talking about an "Alpha male" as if it's a singular thing is a mis-use of the concept. And who takes an "Alpha" role in a group will depend on the group, someone being the alpha one day doesn't automatically mean they will be the alpha the next day in a different group. Lets not read more into this than there is. We're still all fluid individuals who can be unpredictable.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Then I say he is NOT an alpha male. Every woman, at some point, will express herself and if that is something a man can't accept then I'm guessing he doesn't get along with anyone. Everyone this alpha male comes across in his life is going to express a difference of opinion at some point. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    10 years ago

    The popcorn. This could get interesting and messy. My kind of thread lol. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    What woman is compliant to a man these days unless it's an abusive male. Wrong wording. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    There is a poster here who is genuinely an Alpha male ..I have been reading his posts for over three years now,have never met him but a close friend of mine has..he would never describe himself as Alpha ..but I think he probably is 😜xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I've never seen such extremes in brilliance and fuckwittery in one post like I have here. To associate Alpha males with an abusive role is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. Sure some are but by far it's lesser weaker males. Every Alpha type in my social circle are kind and protective of women, kids and animals often to the extreme. I'm often told I'm very "Alpha" and I take it as a great compliment. I have no problem taking charge and leading, I wouldn't hesitate a second to pull someone into line if they were being abusive to someone weaker and heaven help anyone being cruel to an animal in my presence. There's sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. I like to be a sheepdog - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Plain280

    Plain280

    10 years ago

    They are not relevant, we have been here before, what is one persons Alpha is another persons bully for example. The last time this was discussed a certain form of submission as in would an Alpha male partake in tasting another man's sperm that has just had it off with his partner was suggested . Now you are narrowing the definition to if a bloke tries it on as if he was twenty again, well in my opinion the guys a dickhead. You change with circumstances in life Alpha is irrelevant just another label to use sometimes based on a very narrow portion of the broad spectrum of life.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Alfalfa male. Does that count ?