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Am I Giving Head Too Early? 3 Questions...
January 25 2011
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RHP User
15 years ago
Not exactly your situation but this might have some bearing on it. Surely there is similiarities between swinging and singles play. The female here is complaining about a lack of oral from the guys when swinging, so we have decided the guys have to give oral first. She says she has noticed its routine she gives oral but she does not recieve, I give oral to his wife but dont recieve, then its sex! Suggest when you go 69 and the guy stops on you, why dont you stop on him .....simple. Or he gives you oral for a couple minutes then you give it to him for a couple minutes. The wife reckons a lot of guys out there are just there to get their rocks off, dont let them just cum and roll over and leave everyone else dry! You have to take control a little more, thats what I am suggesting to my wife but in reality you girls want to please, so have to see if she will.l
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RHP User
15 years ago
1. do that ever-so-subtle move guys do where they push with their hand to force your head crotch-wise. 2. would it hurt to just be honest? Saying 'not now' kinda means 'later' when you're trying to say 'nevvvvaaaahhh!' 3. kick em out the front door (or the back if you have a big mean dog) but keep their pants. xx Sarah (too tired to be helpful!)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Actually no you haven't. I am an awesome lover and saw some of myself in your post... so this isn't about you picking losers - well apart from points 2 and 3. . 1. For me.. I tend to get a bit lost with the 69er. I love giving oral... and I mean LOVE... like more than cheesecake! I am also somewhat focused when I am giving oral... watching the way the girl moves, sounds etc. I get completely lost in the moment. And I am the same when I am receiving oral... However when it comes to the 69er... I get confused. When my brain is focusing on giving oral I am not getting the full pleasure receiving it. As soon as I stop giving, I can fully enjoy receiving. And vice versa. I figure it's a multi-tasking issue. So I tend to find you need to take turns at 'leading' during a 69er. . 2. Why are you worried about his / their ego. . 3. I could start one of those long winded vitreols about these men being bad news and not respecting boundaries and just being in it for themselves... but someone else will do that no doubt. I think it's obvious what you should do with men who don't treat you right or play out their own fantasy ignoring what you want in bed.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Fun I could have written your post word for word !! I am so annoyed by it , I pronounced I was giving up giving head for good ! I love love love giving head , but why does that stop everything else ? Even if you do have a mind altering orgasm, don't forget about ME !! Very annoying, I am not sure what to do either so I'm glad you wrote this topic ! :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
First of all, I guess you must be really great at giving head, which is fantastic. I've been in the same situation a couple of times but it's a bit different for a guy with a woman, because maybe you'll just keep going and she'll come again or maybe you'll just fuck her hard after she's come, which is great and usually you hear some exquisitely sexy noises from your partner when you're doing that. Maybe you could just hold off a little longer and have a bit more of your own fun before you get to that. Or, you could slow down so that they regain their concentration and give you some more fun. Or you could just be more assertive and change position so they have to keep going and work for their reward a bit.And just tell them. It's the easiest way and I'm sure their little hearts won't break. And if guys keep up with stuff you don't like, send them home or go home.
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RHP User
15 years ago
i think Jean is on to something its a well known fact that men can only do one thing at a time so it would make sense that they can either lick you or have you suck them they cant consentrate on both...Jean i think im in loooove with you maybe you need to get your big O happening before you make him swing round for the 69er damn 69er would have to be my favourite postion...but now Jean has said that a lot of things make sense hahaha as for the other problems...."just tell them sorry found someone else to play with" and..."if you do that again i have a 10inch cock in my draw with your name on it, so quit it" roxxy
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RHP User
15 years ago
Look forward to the answers from the guys on this one. I often have the exact same thoughts. Contemplating not giving head at all any more. I very rarely get much in the way of return when I do. It also seems to me that the guys just forget about anything else except what I am doing to them and the next time we meet.........dont want anything else. l 1. Every time there has been a topic on guys giving oral I have said that they all say they love to and then dont bother. I have always been told that it is just the guys I have met and there are ones out there who love going down there for hours. So I dont want to hear all that same BS either. They seem to talk the talk but not walk the walk. I know damn well it is not the way I taste nor a matter of hygiene as I have met the odd man who will go down there for hours and they all do say I taste good. I would be aware if I did not smell right or taste right anyway. l 2. Tell the guy that you didnt think the chemistry was quite right. You are looking for something different maybe add a few kinks that he is not into. If he keeps on insisting....then it is time to be nasty. l 3. Yes. What is it with all the rough play? I do not enjoy having my hair pulled nor my arse smacked. I dont want to be bitten or have someones hands around my throat. I want to be treated gently...I bruise easily and come back fighting. Admitedly they only do it once and then learn that it is a no-go. Maybe it is the norm these days and we are the odd two out? I also tell them - too hard, be gentle, yadda, yadda, yadda but it is in one ear and out the other. So I a with you all the way Funloving.... l Please explain?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Q-1 Can't help you there, as it doesn't happen to me. Don't know why the guy would stop, unless as JG pointed out, it's a multi-tasking thing, and as most women know, us guys struggle with more than 2 tasks at once. I guess i am just lucky that when it comes to 69, i find the ability to multi task Q2- Just let the guy know that you need more of a connection, and while it was fun, it is not meant to be!Q3- I believe porn has a lot to do with this. If you watch enough then you believe what you see. And if you watch porn then you believe that ALL women love to be spanked, have their hair pulled, poked in the ass, and will then gladly let you come in their mouths. My only recommendation is whats good for the goose- If they slap your ass, slap their balls, if they pull your hair, grab a handful of pubes, if they pinch your nipples, grab a ball and do the same (This one can be excruciating)From what i have been told by a friend, can be very effective in curing the rough guys!
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RHP User
15 years ago
have the same thing happen to me during 69 but its the girl that tends to stop before i do most times. so i can relate to what u are saying a little bit. think is just purely that they r liking it too much that they lose concentration. or maybe they are full of shit and tired. male or female everyone seems to have an elevated view of how good in bed they are. is a bit of a giggle to read people going on about how they are the best at this and that, but i digress. I'm not sure there is a concrete answer but if u arent getting along with the guys sexually then be upfront, make your grievences known and then dont see em anymore :) pretty simple to ignore people
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RHP User
15 years ago
Well.... when I'm face planting like that my mind is on the target and I don't notice so much what people are doing to my body... unless there's err.... well, there's no way of saying this gently... so.. I'll just go on and say "penetration".... that drags me out of my dream like state into the realms of reality and I'm no longer in a giving mood.... it's an overwhelming urge to be all taking.. if I can put it that way.... I mean.. haven't you ever felt that way? An overwhelming urge, despite what you'd like to do with your mouth and whatever it is right there in your face.... to breathe deeply... maybe that's what it is.. their mouth breathers like me! They just need the oxegen! Mystery solved.HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
I like 69ers for playing but not for cuming. Same as what Jean said...its too hard to concentrate! My suggestion is if you feel you have done your bit & have been lickin away with no reciprocation for a while, then stop & rest your head on his thigh. That gives them time to gather their witts & return the favour. . Maybe give the local guy one more chance & explain what your problems are or just say chemistry is wrong & dont return any calls/txts. . Heehee I like fiaonabees suggestion....When they pull your hair, turn around & pull theirs. You get a sudden slap from nowhere, turn around & pelt their arse! I would be pissed if the man had slapped or pulled and I had said no not into that right now, only for him to do it again 4 minutes later... . But sex with someone who doesnt know you well is always abit of a negotiation the first few times. A learning experience. My guess is that these guys were not quite right for you, cos if the chemistry had been right you would have given them another go and maybe gave more feedback during the experience rather than a rant after:-D . Good luck! Mrs H xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Welcome back to the land of Sex - I know what that feels like after a long abscence - kinda weird. . 1) Well I think yes you are giving head too early. Wait until you have had at least your first orgasm before you do that. . No 69ers - you know better than that - men simply can not multi task. As Stalky says they need to concentrate on breathing because they might die otherwise. So no to 69ers! . 2) Okay he may live close to you but he doesn't know where you live. Does he?? Classic mistake - I only go to their place. You might have to bite the bullet on that one and tell him that your not interested in seeing him again and hope that he isn't a stalker. . 3) As for the hair pulling and spanking - that is hard one. Men are predisposed to tuning a women out as soon as she opens her mouth to speak. If they can't put their dick in it they just aren't interested. SOooo .. I think you should keep a cricket bat under the bed and spank their arse while they are asleep. I find that this does wonders and they truly come to appreciate where you are coming from. A more practical demonstration if you like. . Otherwise GOOD LUCK and I WISH MULTIPLE ORGASMS ON YOU FOR 2011!! Hugs & Kisses Meeka
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RHP User
15 years ago
The problem is not only 69'ers. If you give a passable head job, they seem to think that is all they should get. I am very adept at stopping at the crucial moments and not continuing until I get what I want but...next time round...same thing. Now I like to give a second chance as well but the third time? Doesnt happen!
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RHP User
15 years ago
There, I avoided the obvious as asked so not jumping up and down yelling "try me...try me". You live on the other side of the city so wouldn't hear it anyway but I could email it to you? | I am completely with JG on this one...a true lover of the art, just not so sure about the cheesecake though. I picked up a recipe from a chef in New York an with the strawberry glace'...well, it's a close call. | The first could be the obvious...if you are "that good" at it and they are otherwise engaged doing their part, you are knocking their sox off and they simply get (excuse the pun) blown away once you turn and reciprocate. If it happens every time then back to the old one liner "Doctor it hurts when I do that...then don't do that". Either way, it sounds like it's bound to please...although sharing each other that way is an incredible intimacy, I agree. | I have had similar experiences with women...on the receiving side of incredible oral and when I roll over and start to play, end up doing my impersonation of a flag pole sans the flag. Simple solution is to just slow down a bit, kiss the inside of her thigh...tease a bit with the tongue and for some reason, the magic happens and the favour is returned. | Also tends to happen when the woman gets there first, which usually happens....but I like that, so just go with the flow (as it were) and regardless of how she tries to escape, go for the second one from her. Have to say....that is when I do get absolutely blown away and is perhaps some of the most enthusiastic oral I have ever had the pleasure to receive. | All up...you aren't going in to early or too hard, just enjoy what you do and make it work for you instead of against you. | Now about the other blow off...probably no real way to do it graciously as I am sure you left him with weak knees and starry eyes. Guess you could hope he reads this thread if he is on this site but if not...JFDI and tell the guy that you enjoyed his company but not really intereted in meeting again as you want to explore yourself a bit more. Guys know about the "it's about me, not about you" line too...and a quick execution is better than being tortured to death, right? | It's a bit like the guy that walks into the bedroom with a glass of water in one hand and two Panadol in the other. The woman looks up and asks "What's that for, I don't have a headache". He then throws everything in the air, dives under the covers and yells... | "...gotcha!"
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RHP User
15 years ago
Funloving the answer is simple physics hun. 1. "To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction: or the forces of two bodies on each other are always equal and are directed in opposite directions." 69's are just a positon, take turns, relax and enjoy 100% receiving then give 100% when its your turn to recipricate..... I do love the view when I'm receiving . Also like a 72, thats a 69 with three people watching hehe. 2. Tell them your not looking for anything serious and you want to see what else is out there. If they don't respect your space be more direct with them. 3. The next time a guy grabs you by the hair or slaps you on the arse take it up a notch. At the first opportunity, wind up and slap him on the arse so hard that you leave a hand print then grab him by the hair and scream at him 'SUCK MY CLIT BITCH, YOU LIKE THAT DON'T YOU, YOU LIKE IT ROUGH, YEAH BABY SUCK THAT CLIT' then grind your crotch onto his face so hard that you break his nose. Guaranteed he'll think twice before slapping any girl on the arse or pulling her hair next time . Just my thoughts hope it helps S
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RHP User
15 years ago
maybe you should make it a 181 instead of a 69 ,.... seeing as (most) men .. cannot multi task .. one ate one is much more practical ..
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RHP User
15 years ago
I wouldn't worry about it if I was you, put it down to being good at what you're doing and you've just picked a couple of blokes who aren't quick learners. Signed a quick thinking local... lol
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RHP User
15 years ago
Re Q1: Despite not wanting to hear "You have met the wrong guys" or "Ohhhh I love going down on women and won't finish till she does" as responses, these are not always a load of crap. I agree, walking-the-walk is not as common on RHP as one would like but it does exist. I honestly believe you have been one of the (many) unfortunate ones to encounter those who don't back up their claims. I think it's just a case of keep looking and trying.Personally speaking, I read your post Fun and thought it's strange that guys are like that based on what I know I am like. I don't say this as a "but i'm different" claim, but as my genuine reaction to your dilemma.Re Q2: Nice rejection? Doesn't exist unfortunately. Just be honest with the guys in question and explain why it's not working for you. If their egos are bruised there's not much you can do about it. Perhaps it will be the spark that gets them to change their ways.Re Q3: In a similar way to the above, I don't claim to understand why people (male or female) continue to do something to their sexual partners when it's been made clear that they don't like it. You are probably right in terms of the influence of porn.
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RHP User
15 years ago
It is whenever I start to suck cock! Guys can say they have a Tornado Tongue...but I must have a Magic Mouth haha! < After Mr Cop (from Qld) finished cumming on Monday night...I was actually very very moody and the song kept going through my head "What about me?" haha. Was a very uncomfortable and silent drive back to where he is staying. But yet, on Saturday night he went down on me for over an hour (but was in a car and he is 6'4 so hard to do anything really and get comfy).. But seriously this happens all the time with guys from the net. > I was thinking today of the best fuck I ever had and it was with a random (well 2 actually, as I picked up 2 guys in one night at a party and we all had a 3some and they didn't know each other...hot...hot...hot) and I was thinking about the best licking I got and again it was in a 3some with 2 guys and this one guy OMFG...could lick like you wouldn't believe!! Unfortunately most guys from the net that I have slept with are forgettable! < Guys, can I suggest you put down your porn and get in touch with a REAL females body ... it will make you soooo much better in bed! < Another rant over...seriously thinking of jumping off the wagon again...SIGH xFunlovingx NB: This is in no way an invite to the guys to message me and tell me how good they are and that I won't be disappointed in them...heard it all before thanks!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I reckon you may be disabling those poor males... After the top class head you supply, they are obviously totally wasted, jelly legged and incapable of performing anything worthwhile for your pleasure..Become a head receiver, with response triggers identified before issuing that top class return service.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I have absolutely no trouble giving and receiving during 69. I cannot multitask everything but that one I have down pat. I think its a pratice thing.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Let them know you don't want a repeat performance - it was great but you are moving on to new experiences. If I guy gets rough just stop whatever you are doing and grab a drink of water or go to the loo. When you return reenforce what you want. One trick if a guy or girl is not doing the right thing is to say .. I'd rather you did ... than ... - give them something to do that makes you go wow rather than oww!! :-)
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RHP User
15 years ago
xfunlovingxsorry to hear that you are constantly getting dissapointed and your such a sexy lady you deserve more haha. I must admit that when im in the 69 and im getting a great head job i tend to get more excited and bury my tongue deeper in their vagina and use my hands to spread and finger the lips and go to town on it and listen to them moan :) . Hope you get some better luck soon xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' It is whenever I start to suck cock! Guys can say they have a Tornado Tongue...but I must have a Magic Mouth haha! I was thinking today of the best fuck I ever had and it was with a random (well 2 actually, as I picked up 2 guys in one night at a party and we all had a 3some and they didn't know each other...hot...hot...hot) and I was thinking about the best licking I got and again it was in a 3some with 2 guys and this one guy OMFG...could lick like you wouldn't believe!! Unfortunately most guys from the net that I have slept with are forgettable! < Guys, can I suggest you put down your porn and get in touch with a REAL females body ... it will make you soooo much better in bed! < Another rant over...seriously thinking of jumping off the wagon again...SIGH xFunlovingx NB: This is in no way an invite to the guys to message me and tell me how good they are and that I won't be disappointed in them...heard it all before thanks!Dont give up just yet. There are some genuine guys on here and some that are considerate in bed as well as out. It just takes time to sift through the rubble. But so glad it is not only me wih these problems. I was beginning to think I was the one with issues.
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RHP User
15 years ago
to win it fun Lol :) good to hear your back on the horse again though so to speak :) if i may be so bold perhaps you need to keep your cards close to your chest until after you have seen the guys skillz or lack there of,as once a guy has been blown away so to speak no matter how good his intentions were its game over at that point. Regards Breastman.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'CnS_Playtime' . Also like a 72, thats a 69 with three people watching hehe. . . 3. The next time a guy grabs you by the hair or slaps you on the arse take it up a notch. At the first opportunity, wind up and slap him on the arse so hard that you leave a hand print then grab him by the hair and scream at him 'SUCK MY CLIT BITCH, YOU LIKE THAT DON'T YOU, YOU LIKE IT ROUGH, YEAH BABY SUCK THAT CLIT' then grind your crotch onto his face so hard that you break his nose. Guaranteed he'll think twice before slapping any girl on the arse or pulling her hair next time . Just my thoughts hope it helps S Hahaha LOVE it! . And Funlovin...lol I would be extremely interested in the number of messages you get offering 'Guaranteed Happy ending' ...You sure you wont try some of them out...just for us....So we can have some hard (no pun) statistics?? Go on take six for the team!!! . . But I totally agree about porn & the totally wrong expectations it presents... Mrs H xxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
To the guys, practice holding off. A night of sex is so much better then 5min and a night in front of the box. My sex rules. (1) The longer you hold back the better the orgasm. (2) If you're after a quick spurt and go, let her know before. Many times she will be happy with that. (3) Give and take. Sex is reciprocal. If she/he gives you half an hour of head (lucky you) you owe her/him the same. (4)Fucken communicate. Funloving it is part your fault if he/she cums before you have satisfied your need. You're kissing/sucking each others genitals for fuck sake. If you cant communicate then its just not right. Take a breath and say (dont cum now). If he cant then: Thanks but see you when hell freezes over. (5) Good sex does not have to end in a money shot. (6) There are plenty of fish in the ocean. (7) Some people are worth more then just sex. Friends with benefits does not just mean sexual benefits The last rule LOL (8) If you have not done it with Markusss67 then you're missing out...... LOL
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RHP User
15 years ago
Everyone has probably covered it all but here is my two cents worth. Don't hold back and always tell the offender why his cock won't be seeing your oral skills again anytime soon. Maybe not face to face but through text or msn to avoid that awkward moment. If they are never told then they will never change or improve their lady pleasing skills, and carry on thinking they are sex gods that satisfy instead of the duds they are in reality. P.s: When in the 69, alternate between your mouth and your hand. It will give the guy more time to focus and make the pleasure last longer.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Markusss67'To the guys, practice holding off. A night of sex is so much better then 5min and a night in front of the box. Well there you have it folks... . Maybe they WERE practicing. On Funlovin lol....
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RHP User
15 years ago
Q1.....starting to feel a bit odd here, i love to 69.....a good 69 beats penetration any day for me. I don't have any problem with stopping, I go as hard as she/he does, so if they slow down I slow down and vice a versa.Lets your each regulate the play.I do have one requirement though, I have to be on my back with girls and on top with guys, just seems to work better that way.Q2...Well you could explain their shortcomings and give them another chance.....Why is it women do that one chance only thing, the loving gets better as each becomes more familiar with the other. Otherwise just tell them they weren't up to scratch and you dont do retries! Nothing worse than stringing people along.Q3...I guess they either weren't paying attention when you laid out the ground rules or they just got carried away, I mean they were living the dream....getting it on with an older woman. You could tell them " YOU DO THAT AGAIN AND YOUR OUT THE DOOR BUDDY!!!Cheers Nev
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thanks again all... < I have been ignoring Mr Qld's calls and texts...but luckily he goes back tomorrow! < I bit the bullet with Mr Footballer...and sent him a text saying that he was too rough for me and obviously that is how he likes it and that I am not the one for him. WELL...I get a text back saying "Oh baby I thought you liked it like that..please give me one more chance" (which is crap as I kept telling him DON'T pull my hair...DON'T spank me...OUCH...OWWW...FFS! I took the advice off a few of you though and although I haven't made up my mind...I told him I need to think about it! I get a text 2 seconds later saying "I'm passing by your house I can be there in 5 minutes"...I texted back "What part of I NEED TO THINK didn't you understand?"... Haven't heard from him since and not sure I want to try anymore as I feel that he is ignoring my wishes still! Am I overthinking this all or should I just say NO? < Thanks again xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
That you're kicking him into touch. Anything that's causing that much head fuck after a one off random isn't worth it.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Haven't heard from him since and not sure I want to try anymore as I feel that he is ignoring my wishes still! Am I overthinking this all or should I just say NO? < sounds like you've just answered your own question. He's just demonstrated that he's not able to think past his own wants. now, back a few posts to the QLDer. did you say 6'4"? have i mentioned how much i love really tall men? and i live in QLD?? ;)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Am I overthinking this all or should I just say NO? Not at all, xFx...you are showing a great deal of compassion and I honestly do admire how gracious you are being. Of course, when Rambo rocks up and starts yelling "Hey...have you thought it over yet" and kicks in the door you might try that "Not tonight, dear....I have a headache" thing? Is that Panadol in your pocket or are you... | ...waiting for me to say NO!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hey Funloving - I think you should say NO. I mean if it wasn't that great to begin with and he is not listening to what you want - and still is not listening to what you are saying. Well you know how it goes............ NEXT !!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx'I told him I need to think about it! I get a text 2 seconds later saying "I'm passing by your house I can be there in 5 minutes"...I texted back "What part of I NEED TO THINK didn't you understand?"...you should be flattered - he clearly thinks you're smart enough to think quickly
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RHP User
15 years ago
Well for the 69'ing and they get, er, distracted. You need to stop if they stop. When they ask why tell them because they stopped. They'll catch on real quick. As for not meeting your needs, you need to tell them. That includes if they do any rough stuff. Tell them up-front and if they start being rough tell them they are out if they continue. If they continue being rough stop and one of you leaves. Only one chance after being told. Keep us posted on how it works out.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'sydneyboy3au' Quoting 'xFunlovingx'I told him I need to think about it! I get a text 2 seconds later saying "I'm passing by your house I can be there in 5 minutes"...I texted back "What part of I NEED TO THINK didn't you understand?"... you should be flattered - he clearly thinks you're smart enough to think quickly That was awesome :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
I wish that I got a Headjob...Full Stop!...haha
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RHP User
15 years ago
FL, the thing is this, a good man will be able to give and enjoy licking and fingering you whilst you are sucking him. But, get your orgasm in before he gets his. Its a man thing, probably ingrained with our evolution. Once a man has cum he needs time to reload so the interest wanes other wise we would just keep thrusting away. Women on the other hand can take lots of cum hence the multiple orgasm ability. If your multi orgasmic then he should be considerate enough to give you as many as you like before he gets his. Hey how hot is it giving, watching and hearing a lady have big wet orgasms. The more the better.So if your not getting it whilst he's getting it and if your not getting great orgasms, then move them on. You women have a HUGE and easy choice.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Simple. Take control . Take your pleasure. Take there cock.... Then do it over and over till your satisfied.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Any bloke who stops going down town while in 69 is a FOOL ! Going down is one of my favourite things ! So find a guy who wont stop and take control !As for Spanking ? yeah some guys lose the plot....As for his persistent TXT's keep saying no or block the Number , the NET has all sorts of software for Mobiles these days.....Cheer's
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RHP User
15 years ago
Whilst I dont have a comment per se on your oral issue I do want to make the point that rough sex (hair pulling, spanking, slapping etc) has been going on a lot longer than the reasonably recent trend in predominantly US made porn. I remember the days when there wasn't THAT much porn around and a new porno was something exciting and there were only about 20 "pornstars". The advent of the video handi cam meant that porn could be made gonzo style and without the need for film crews, big budgets and basically anybody could be a porn star...and how to be the BIGGEST pornstar ? Go harder and deeper and rougher than anyone else ! Google Sasha Grey if you dont believe me... This opened up pornography to the point now where is is virtually mainstream, well unless you are seriously conservative. Consequently we are seeing the trend of porn needing to 'out do' itself....we become more and more desensitised to scenes and images that would have seemed outrageous even in the 80's. To stand out from the crowd porn has to continuously evolve and I believe that rougher porn is something relatively new in the last decade. They weren't called the naughties for nothing ! lol I also thing that porn reflects society's changing moral values...as we become less conservative and more sexually liberated, of course we are going to try more unconventional sex, rougher sex, more outrageous sex and if we are doing that amongst ourseves then eventually it will find its way into porn... So whilst porn may have some responsibility in "guys wanting to try stuff they see in porn" (a BIG generalisation btw as MANY girls have play rape fantasies for example and LOVE having their hair pulled and to be controlled during sex) it's patently not something new. As in all things, communication, respect and courtesy are paramount, esecially if you are going to play around a bit and have different sexual partners...I would say that you should respect people's desires and as always, NO means NO. If someone tries it on even after limits have been agreed to then yep - on yer bike ! Dogism.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Dear Funloving, I may well get kicked for this but please take it in the good spirit it is meant. Here goes. Answer to Q1) I have read many of your posts and have come to think of you as an intelligent and informed lady with a great sense of fair play. So I was surprised that you seemed to have branded all men based on experiences with just 2 of them. I am confident (not arrogant) in my abilities and believe that I can multitask when in a 69. Thus, I am saying what you don't want to hear in that I believe you have met the wrong men and I for one make sure my partner is satisfied before I am. Were you on top or was the man? I think 69 is best with the woman on top (or even laying side by side) as the woman then has more freedom to move her pelvis into the right position for her based on what the man is doing. He should then take note of that and compensate appropriately. Answer to Q2 and 3) You've answered this in your recent posts. You have the power to tell him you don't want to see him anymore. Just as you did when you told him you didn't like it rough. You did the "right" thing by giving him a second chance but he was obviously not the "right" man as he didn't learn from the first time.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Anyone ever noticed how most of these forums end up being a man bashing exercise?
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Aussie_SS
15 years ago
I get cravings to go down on a girl and 69 even more so haha, i would not stop playing with her if she started to give me head ; )My mate will not go down on his wife at all because he does not enjoy. Another friend of mine says he finds its a chore and does not enjoy it.I guess educate the guys you see if that's the ONLY deal breaker stopping you from seeing them again.... but there must be other things to add to you not wanting to return there calls. In my book being up front, not playing games etc is the best for everyone.Practice makes perfect so keep up the practice & enjoy ; )I have gone down on girls and not had them give me a head job , some girls do not enjoy it so i respect that & being ruff and hair pulling even though you tell guys you dont like it just means they are not listening and want to just have there way with you.....I aim to please that way i know i will hear back lol
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RHP User
15 years ago
I guess we can all get carried away with receiving pleasure, but they could always at least make sure the finish you
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RHP User
15 years ago
If I may put my experience out there. My partner of 31 years, who gives excellent head jobs, almost a professional..... In fact I would say better than a Professional, (no money changes hands) Now we have invited the extra guy around to enjoy our company, on more than a few occasions the Only real criteria they need to be Bi-Sexual ( Amazing just how many "Straight Guys" we attract, But don't get me started on that for Gods Sake). Anywho as for the Oral issue, My lady and I both have problems, enjoying and concentrating with a 69, Partly because of the fact that my cock when in a 69 position just isn't comfortable, it has to be bent back against it's natural "standing" position, But when we have the Extra guy there in a three way suckfest the angles great, Soooo much more comfortable. Now no matter how long I work, or our Guest works on my girls Pussy she will not Cum, just doesn't happen, She so concentrates on giving head that I (or he) am pretty much wasting my/our time working on her Clit or Pussy with either my Mouth or Cock. So It's all about taking turns for us, first one gets Head to the point where she cums by Mouth OR even better is that she will give head till one of us cums.......Now Once she gets the taste of Jism down her Throat she is ready for a hot hard Cock and plenty of Fucking (This also Gives the cummer time to regroup) So our two guys one girl scenario works excellent as She gets just what she wants, as for the two guys well they don't miss out either....... AND if our Guest is still standing proud then I just jump him, usually by this stage they are that fucking Horny they would fuck any hole, Yep even one of Mine. So my tip for you xfunlovingx Is to make sure you get your fill of Oral before you take him over the edge! Give him a taste of your oral talent, You know How to control the Big O by what you've said Then tell him "My turn now" And if he's not doing it right Ask/Tell him just how to do it, most guys just don't do it right, from what my Lady says. What works for her is a Firm Tongue around the Clit and Vagina opening, every now and then slip down to her Asshole and give it a rim, once she warms up Add a couple of Fingers inside her Pussy pressing up onto her G-Spot whilst working Firm on her Clit with the mouth and Tongue. Now if he doesn't get you there on the second date then Fuck him off, sure the first Date might be a case of over excitement on his part, But no cum for you second date, your with a selfish lover, and you don't need that, Piss him off. As for "To Early for Oral" I don't think you can ever be To Early for oral But then that's just a guys perspective, Nice post BTW Bi4now Cockmunchers
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RHP User
15 years ago
ok 3 simple answers 1) cause those guys are sefish and cbf once they get what they want there are a few of us hell b ent on finishing what we start2) tell em to f*** of most guys wont leave u alone unless you are direct cause we are persistant bastards3) a lot of guys are in their own little world and do as they please and inore you again there are some of us hell bent on making sure she is in that little world with us :Phope that helps :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hello xFunlovingx Excellent questions. Perhaps my answers are too simple. . . . . . be assertive and honest !! Now let me go into a little more detail. "The devil is in the detail", or so they say. Personally i find the good old 69 is a tricky feat to perform well. We are all built different so unless you know the measurments ( and i will be surprised if anyone does)the chance of two people being of similar torso length is very hit and miss. It is a matter of length(isn't is always ???). Whilst your face is over his cock, where is your pussy? If he is taller than you there is a good chance that it is too far away from his face. And unless you've scored yourself a chap with either a long flexible neck (mr Girraffe) or had a very long tongue (mr Popular) he cannot return the pleasure you are giving him. My solutions are . . . . a) tell him it's his turn and slide back towards him. Most of us guys enjoy being to be told to get in there. Bring out the dominance in yourself ;-) b) take him to the edge, then turn around and rub your pussy in his face as you straddle it. You are in the box seat (i know, terrible pun there but could not help myself) so to speak and can control the how and pace. The bonus is you get to rub your self off on his smoothly shaved chin. And if you want him to go that extra inch you just put it there for him to attend to. Be wanton with him. ;-P c) you are here to have pleasurable YOU time. So don't be afraid to ask for what you want. Being critical would be very counter production, but an enthusiastic "Oo I like that" tells us we are on the right path. Don't forget where most of our blood has gone So the old brain is getting a little oxygen starved. It'll need all the guidance it can get. d) if you don't like what is being done, tell him straight, and that if he does that again it's good night Charlie Brown ! e) sometimes you have to tell them honest and true, but a little honey can make it sweeter. When you don't want to see them again, just tell them. If they persist, then no honey for them ! Well, these are my personal thoughts on the matter. Why deny yourself the pleasures !
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erotictouch4u
15 years ago
Quoting 'CnS_Playtime' At the first opportunity, wind up and slap him on the arse so hard that you leave a hand print then grab him by the hair and scream at him 'SUCK MY CLIT BITCH, YOU LIKE THAT DON'T YOU, YOU LIKE IT ROUGH, YEAH BABY SUCK THAT CLIT' then grind your crotch onto his face so hard that you break his nose. S That is such a classic ! Maybe don't break his nose, just make him suffocate for a little and when he comes up gasping for air ask "what? I thought you liked it like that". ET x x x
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erotictouch4u
15 years ago
As with most people I can only comment from my own experiences... 69 is great, but i LOVE licking pussy so much that it takes my full concentration such that sometimes it blocks out the feelings i am getting from the lady giving me head. Not that i start going limp and disinterested, just that i don't feel myself getting closer to my own orgasm. I know it sound silly but i just get SO into hearing and feeling the lady's enjoyment to make sure she is getting the absolute best i can give her. I am one for giving tongue first and giving second, and giving ... then receiving head after. Then the rest of the fun continues. ET x x x
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RHP User
15 years ago
although I find the man bashing amusing, I have to chip in here as well... I find the exact same thing when I go down on a girl, they more or less stop completely with me...I guess the difference is that I actually like to concentrate completely on the girl anyway so I don't mind at all....must be my inability to do two things at once ;-) errr....actually, no, because I do concentrate both on what I'm doing and what my lady friend is doing too....is that two things or does it only count as one because they're both concentrations? Now I've confused myself :-) Anyway, the point was that I experience the same from ladies as you are with guys!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I have cum to the conclusion that SOME guys are trying to hook up with a chick off RHP cos it's easier and cheaper than getting a hooker. They blow they go .. When they txt a second time that they are only 5 mins away and a blow job would be great.. I know thats really is all they are after! So I tell em.. They stay longer or I charge them! Footballer dude sounds like a selfish wanker. Unfortunately as much as I like CnS remedy.. (Lol I have done that with a guy but I see him a lot!)... Well.. If he is into throwing u around a bit.. U don't know if taking that line could land you in hot water with him turning his violence up a notch. Hes not listening to you Fun so he is a selfish and therefore useless lover. My advice delete his number so when he texts you have to ask "I'm sorry who is this again" makin him feel he wasn't even worth remembering! Hold your head up proud sexy girl! You're better than that!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Well this is an interesting topic. 69 is the best but yes some guys can lose concentration easily, especially if the woman is very good or taking him very close to the edge. I would suggest that you slow up a little on him and if he stops, you stop. It is only fair after all! Tell him that once he brings you to orgasm you will finish the job properly. Any decent guy will eagerly comply! It is all in the communication. Have fun! Would hate to see you 'retire' again!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I can't read what a couple of you guys are reading...Can you point me in the right direction? < Most people who have replied to this post are MEN! But yet, you have people accusing this of being a man-bashing session and also that apparently I am branding ALL men (hmmm can't find that at all....so you have lost me completely)!! Also, it is not just 69er...hence the heading "Do I give head too early"? And I have stated in my second entry that it is not just 69ers! < To the guys that love to describe how good you are...yep....they did EXACTLY the same! To the guys that suggest that I be dominant...Why would I even contemplate doing that if I don't like it rough?...Some of those posts made me laugh though..but that was intended by the person that posted it! Love them haha! < To the people that could actually read my post and understand it thank you! Bad Dog for explaining about the porn...thank you...I didn't even think that! My first question will definately be "do you watch much porn, which type?" Lol! < Meeka, I took your advice and told him that there is no way I would go there with him again! So, happy to say...I found my Kahuna's lol! < Thanks everyone, but back on the sexless wagon I go...it's too scary out there for me! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
To approach the topic of your thread, Yes you are. If they are stopping then you are giving head too soon. And its a sign that you should get your good times before they get theirs. Ladies first. Your a strong woman, you should be saying get your face down here laddy (pointing) Then when you have had enough, move over to them. This is a case of nice guys finishing last. Part two of your thread, Hmmmmm, well I don't think you have had any problem with that in the past. Part three of your thread, I agree, whats with this arse slapping thats starting to creep in? another Americanism I fear.
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RHP User
15 years ago
1) I'd go with the adage that you get out of it what you put in.....so if he stops, so do you. Not blowing my own trumpet (I'd have to be a contortionist to do that!), but I find when I'm receiving a bj, I have to be doing something (grabbing, fondling, licking..) - I can't just lie there and take it. 2) & 3) In particular with Mr Football....he sounds like a selfish prick. Tell him to sod off. Loved your responses to his texts, too :-)
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RHP User
15 years ago
1.When you are receiving all the attention xFunlovingx...arching you back, losing your thoughts, closing your eyes...Just lightly tease IT ( if you're good...i'll give you this later).. But if you go the blow...oohh no , its all over !! If it ends early, wouldnt you rather from the noise below..." hun, my tongues cramped up"...i think so ! We guys do loose all our pre-determined goals...we actually do walk into power poles when HE moves... When my mind is bent on going somewhere...i have to get there...i dont want distractions, or, i will loose my way.. 2. Just say it how it is...honestly. We are all adults...being honest and fair, no one will get hurt. Are you scared of hurting their ego, or is it confrentation you dont want...?? 3. Well, yeah, treat everyone the way they want to be treated. Its simple ! But sometimes, and its happened to all of us...in the moment and passion, the cheeks get squeezed a bit harder than normal, or the nails dig a little deeper. But once we hear, or say, the "ouch"...the pleasure continues....yum! Dont give up...x
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RHP User
15 years ago
I know you said not to say it, but....you've met the wrong guys! While I like receiving, I much prefer giving. I've met some women who've said they are great at giving head, but i don't seem to be overly sensitive down there when it comes to getting head. It's enjoyable but I've NEVER cum from it. Maybe that sounds like a challenge, or maybe they weren't finding the 'right spot' (besides the head/shaft!!). But it has never distracted me from continuing to eat pussy in a 69. As to telling them gently, it's tough but maybe the old "Sorry, but I don't think things will work out. But good luck..."might do. Pulling hair? Hard slapping, when you've said you're not into that?!! Definitely the wrong guys! If you ask for that, then that's different. Otherwise, they should never do that. "asa"
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RHP User
15 years ago
Confrontation I can deal with...especially guys I haven't met! But, when I have slept with a guy...yes....I do not like to hurt their ego's, which is why I usually just quietly slip away without a word to them! As much as some of you think I am a hard arse (and it's only the ones I have rejected on here mind you)...I am really a softie and don't like to hurt people's feelings! Confrontation/Hurting someones ego...is the same to me! I could never look at someone and tell them they are shit! Disappearing is so much kinder! Well..that is how I work anyway! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
but at the same time, (assume you're referring to Mr Football Guy) you've defined the boundaries, and asked that he give you some time. If he can't or won't respect that, then it's time to say STOP! I wouldn't call that hurting someone's ego, but rather standing up for yourself. From the sounds of it, he's crossed the line more than once and you've already let him know. Therefore, his ego should no longer be part of the equation.
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RHP User
15 years ago
1) As a man and with not a great deal of sexual experience, when I first had 69s with my gf I did find it pretty intense and I wasn't able to give head to the same degree as I did when I wasn't being stimulated. But I pushed through and kept going and she was very appreciative. So from the man's perspective I think it's a matter of pressing through and working towards that good habit. There's been some good advice about what to do from the woman's angle. Another option (that's probably already been mentioned) is to get the guy to give head first. Especially if he's sold himself as this wonderful cunnilingus maestro. Said gf above, I was very lucky in that she really liked giving head. I mean, really. So I'd lick her for a bit when she was riding my face and pretty soon she'd switch to 69. Just because she wanted to so badly. Ah, those were the days... But I digress. One could always insist on a policy of ladies first. 2) You can still be "assertive" (as is the popular word) without being nasty. This is me wearing my experience on my sleeve, but I'd rather a "I've decided I don't want to see you again" to the ignoring treatment. I want a woman to say what she means. If she says, "Not tonight, I've got a headache" I'll try again the next night and ask, "How's your head?" To be honest is not to be nasty. It's only nasty when you start using insults or put-downs. I had an ex who gave me a long time of avoidance and excuses because she arbitrarily decided she didn't want to see me. I kept butting my head against a brick wall for months because I loved her while everyone around me thought I was the dumbest man on earth. So that's why I get pretty insistent on that women should say what they mean straight up, none of this hiding and excuse-making business under the mistaken impression it's gentler. It's actually not. I would have rather her said so earlier on than go through the thinking that followed. Then it all backfiired because I persisted so much she ended up being nasty out of frustration and just to get rid of me. If she'd been honest at the onset we could have spared ourselves all of that. But that was in a relationship which is a more emotive situation. "I don't want to meet up again," is okay. It's "You're pathetic, creepy, selfish and I'm sorry I ever lowered myself to sleep with you," that's not. As long as you're the right side of that, you're not being nasty. 3) I was raised to think of women as princesses- so imagine my shock when I found girls who wanted to be slapped and hair-pulled! I had never watched a whole lot of porn, just images mostly, and I stayed away from the rough stuff finding it distasteful and immoral. Then I met girls who wanted it, and they weren't being filmed for porn and pandering to men's desires (because they weren't my own at the time!) It rocked my world. ;) With my last gf I took some of those habits to bed and immediately after doing them felt bad. "Shit, I'm bringing my 'bad habits' here with you." It turned out she didn't mind. But I can completely see the mistake of having that with one or more girls and then going on autopilot with someone else. Not that that then makes it okay to do it with someone who has very clearly said not to.
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RHP User
15 years ago
good head
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RHP User
15 years ago
I took on the advice here and actually stopped giving head whenever they stopped giving me oral! It worked great...but shit, I am an impatient person! The last 2 guys I have been with this week have been going down on me and as much as I love it...I find that I get bored doing nothing back...so ask them for a 69! And again losing myself in the head giving (what can I say, I love it)!! < My new dilemma is...I tend to gush before cumming and I am VERY noisy as the orgasm is building...Why oh why do guys stop? I said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on both occassions as I lost my orgasm and then desire....that I just asked them what is the best position to make them cum! As once the build up is gone...so is the desire to cum anymore! The guy I was with yesterday said that he thought I had cum already as he felt the gush and heard me moaning and writhing around crazily! > When a girl is very vocal in bed and yells "Oh that is sooooooooooooo good" and breathes heavily and moves around...does NOT mean we have cum already...Come on guys, get it together!! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hmm, sounds like you need to take the top and tell them to keep going until you either say otherwise or blow them, which ever comes first! Good to hear it is working, well almost! Practice sure does make perfect you know and bloody glad you got back on the wagon! Hope you are too!
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RHP User
15 years ago
When I'm giving a woman oral sex there is nothing better as she clamps my head tightly between her legs and thrashes wildly as she orgasms. I realise that a womans clit usually becomes very sensitive after her orgasm but why would a bloke stop? If she gushes as FL does then how hot is that? I'd be keeping going for awhile after that.
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RHP User
15 years ago
1: I can't see their problem. Other than having to come up for air or make the odd 'oh god - yes' comment, I am able to maintain a pretty good rhythm wrt a 69, actually it is the lassie who has to stop due to her excitement - no problems for me though. 2: Just tell them that you have moved on, obviously in a nice way. Most (mature) guys know that the female universe does not wait for them and we are all different. Tell them straight out, it is the only fair way otherwise you are in a way leading them on. Thinking about it - crap - you want to end it so do so. 3: Hair pulling and roughness, well there is just no excuse for that and you are well within your rights to stop right them and let them know that if it persists you desist. I do not understand guys that think it is an automatic right of behaviour - with any woman unless she specifically requests it and then I would be damned careful indeed - assault carries over to sex chaps. All women I know prefer tenderness and politeness, so that is the way I behave, not because they like it but because it's the proper thing to do.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thats one of the reasons i wont 69, you cant really ever enjoy it properly as you've gotta put in some work too.Id much rather lay there and enjoy his talents fully and then swap and return the favor.Im also really particular about duration - you only go down on me for 2 minutes thats all your going to get in return - i want quality AND quantity here.Just my thoughts...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Fun said"My new dilemma is...I tend to gush before cumming and I am VERY noisy as the orgasm is building...Why oh why do guys stop? I said" Always a god idea to tell your partner if your a screamer or quite vocal, and or you gush/squirt.The poor guy probably stopped because he thought you were in pain. So many people make very little noise.I really love the vocal ones though.Definetly a good idea to let him know if your a gusher/squirter (if you know yourself), the first time I encountered thisI was sixty nining with a woman, I was on my back, and she gushed all over my face, now my immediate reaction was that she was pissing on me, and she very nearly found herself ejected on to the floor, only I woke up to what was actually happening just before she went sailing through the air!Cheers Nev
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RHP User
15 years ago
This thread really caught my attention.Personally, I prefer 69 to anything else....a previous post explained that for some men there is a certain loss of sensation or awareness of the woman giving head to the guy etc etc...this is actually what i find so appealing about the good old 69.I love the loss of total awareness of the woman sucking my cock when I'm giving her the same...that partial loss of awareness is what makes it so good...If a woman is going down on me, then that total awareness is what makes my orgasm that much more urgent...I prefer to just sail along in a delicious 69, feeling my dick in a warm massaging mouth, but concentrating on giving the same exquisite pleasure to the point where there is just no need to cum...Personally, I can't think of anything betterDH
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RHP User
15 years ago
That is a problem. Once I get into a 69, I can't help but stop tonguing my lover. Most of the time, the girl stops sucking my cock as she is so intence with pleasure from me eating her! You need to find better lovers xfunlovingx B
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RHP User
15 years ago
Next! xxS
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'an_ozy_guy' That is a problem. Once I get into a 69, I can't help but stop tonguing my lover. Most of the time, the girl stops sucking my cock as she is so intence with pleasure from me eating her! You need to find better lovers xfunlovingx B Ahh but they are good lovers xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
I just simply think you are not finding the right person or people. Personally, I adore giving head. There is nothing sexier to me than a woman being brought to orgasm(and I don't mean once) by my tongue. Just love it, love it, love it! You gave them a second chance... but did you tell them your problem. If you told them and it still didn't get better, then move on.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I had a girlfriend that was so good at head I had to ban her from sucking my knob until we had had sex or I had gone down on her until she had cum as I was so drained I could not carry on until some time later. So I can understand why the guys stop their action on you. The suggestion to stop your attention until they resume is a good one but kills the moment. As I did maybe you need to suggest they give you oral until you come fully that way they will if like me be rock hard and ready to blow quickly. Not something you can easily discuss over the first drinks but any new contacts should have read this so will be up to speed on the requirements
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RHP User
15 years ago
Benderover (love the nic) ....I did tell them the problem and still allowed them back for a second, third and in one instance a fourth time! They then whinged as they gave me oral that their tongue or jaw was killing them! I love having fingers inserted into me at the same time as oral and did tell them that that does help me to cum...still no orgasms for me I am afraid as they take their fingers out and keep licking...but I just can't get there as they have swapped it up just as I am about to cum! Happened to me again last night and to be honest, I lost all interest and just didn't care that he didn't cum....This one will NOT get a second chance even though we have been chatting for over 6 months! < Couple9991...I totally get you and for a male, thanks for being honest about it, wish more guys were like you! Not only should I be vocal in what I like and dislike, they should be vocal too that they can't concentrate while I give them head! They should be able to tell me that they enjoy it too much and try and get me off first...sigh! < My question now is...should I just take the toys out of the cupboards and give up on the men on these sites? Only because I feel that while not all of them...but some are only in it for their pleasure! I came home so shitty last night that I didn't get to cum...I am just about over it! < I once met a guy who just had me wait in the back of my car while I was in just lingerie and heels and a coat (it was Winter) and he just stayed dressed and kept his cock in his pants the whole time while he gave me oral until I came and then left (as pre-arranged)! He was a not so hot 22 year old...but hell...he could use his tongue and fingers...I had multiple orgasms before he left! I have organised this with other guys, but they always seem to want me to reciprocate before me cumming! Where have these genuine guys gone? xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Simple FL, we are over here,..... being ignored.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' When a girl is very vocal in bed and yells "Oh that is sooooooooooooo good" and breathes heavily and moves around...does NOT mean we have cum already...Come on guys, get it together!! xFunlovingxIts the guys being lazy and thinking their job is done and that its their turn for some fun now, they are just doing it out of obligation. If they were really intent on giving you an orgasm they wouldn't stop licking until you tell them to because you have had enough or have become too sensitive.Absolute.
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