So who does appreciate transgendered and why?

February 12 2014

Its a difficult one for many people because they see most tg people as crossdressers or people who make a lifestyle choice, for a whole variety of reasons, the spectrum of transgendered is as long as your arm, from fetish at one end to intersexed at the other. Its difficult to understand why some people are so abusive to anyone in the basket, perhaps its easier to condemn all rather than appreciate the differences, so rather than focus on the negative comments, why do some actually like the thought of being with a transgendered person? Do people understand the differences between a transvestite or crossdresser and a transexual? Do people actual care anyway? For those that do take a second look, why do you appreciate a tg, what makes you smile when you think of them? For the transexual, which I am, there is a secondary question, why are so many transexuals attracted to each other? Just remember though, some of us don't do this for fun..:-)

Comments

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I like nice and genuine people. Simples.

    But, yes I understand the difference. I work with several TG women, and what makes me smile when I think of any of them is their spunk.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    No pun intended.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Hope you don't mind me asking, but I have often wondered, does congenital adrenal hypoplasia play a part in transgender people?

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    10 years ago

    Nothing wrong with these ladies...actually I find they aren't as bitchy as some other ladies.
    My old manager was a TG and she was actually one of the best bosses I've ever had.
    But she did scare me a little tho when she got pissed off at some think tho.
    Overall she did dress really well and trendy too.
    I'd comment all the time how well she dressed.

    Why do some actually like the thought of being with a transgendered person?
    It's believe it is because they actually like the person for who they are.

    Why are so many transexuals attracted to each other?
    Well my first thought would be, common interests, experiences, support network with each other and understanding as well as empathize with each other.

    I noticed you're in Brissy Christiets, I heard there is going to be a "meet and greet" evening in the near future.
    You should come along?? Would love to meet you.

    Foxy

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    A lot of fuss over a lot really. My ex of 20 years is f2m very attractive man, great dad to our kids, good person, like many other people. Enough said, life is to short to judge others what on earth is the point? Love B

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I'm sorry I have know idea of the differences 😕

    - Posted from rhpmobile

  • gazpacho

    gazpacho

    10 years ago

    Some people you meet are real arseholes, and some are real gems. I really don't think about transgender issues often. When I was just a very young innocent lad from the country, I started my first job in the city and had to do some work at Les Girls Theatre restaurant. I knew nothing of TG's at all at the time. The cleaner there was trying to explain it to me... by pointing at three toilet doors... there's She, Him and Shims. Carlotta told the cleaner to stop teasing me... and that I was way too innocent to understand. I liked Carlotta.
    HugsGazpacho

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    As someone once said to me... To be me.. Foxxxy, would love to know when there is a meet and greet, would be sure to come along and say hi.. From my dealings I have certainly found ts to be some of the nicest people to know... Spunk? Yes, plenty of guts..

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I like tg people because they completely fly in the face of stereotypes we are fed. I love that these people have looked into themselves and really thought about who they are and where they fit- and they are accepting themselves as they are. The tg people I know are brave and know how to go after what they want. It inspires me. Xx violet Ps and yes I do know the differences and I have friends who are transsexual and friends who are cross dressers :))

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    10 years ago

    We just appreciate you because there is no bull shit, well.... (bad bullshit, most bullshit is ok) he he

    Yeah, you are being yourself, that is what matters.

    Mado Tara xx

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Mado Tara, lol, well I think having to do this empties the tank of BS, all that's left is who you are, thank god!

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    People are only to quick to class people and place them into a category which justifies their thinking. At the end of they day tg/ts/cd are just normal humans tryin to live a life, which should have it's fare share of happines and fun........ Dam sounds serious for pre 5am

    - Posted from rhpmobile

  • lovman8

    lovman8

    10 years ago

    I'm not sure that any one can fully understand what it is to be a transgender person because as you point out there is many reasons people follow that path, ranging from purely a fetish to people who truly feel that are the opposite gender to that which they seem to appear.
    I think all of us, whether conscious of it or not, are some where on the line between male and female with nobody being truly 100% male or 100% female. Some people see transgender as an expression of these feelings of mixed femininity and masculinity and find it fascinating. This is certainly true for me. Conversely some people who are uncomfortable with or do not consciously recognize their feelings of opposite gender, and react with anger or abuse towards transgender people.
    On a lighter note its and cocks are the two most fun things to play with so whats not to be excited about if they both exist on the one body.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I have a couple of transgender friends and I am simply friends with these lady's based soul on there honesty of heart and the strengths as people... I've also recently work in the trucking industry and meet a really nice lady :)) she told me at the start of her journey it was hard but now most except her as her... This wld have been the hardest of industry to work in... O and she is bloody good diesel fitter :)) Haven't slpt with any but the thought of group plays have been there...

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    You are all brilliant, sexy and fun! So glad I found you all! Thanks RHP..

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Interseting, to see that its mostly women who have replied, given the curiosity I have seen from men in the past I thought the replies would almost all come from men, have to say its a relief! and its refreshing too that so many other women get it. Maybe I am not everyones cup of tea but I can live in hope!

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Christiets, I noticed that TS/TG etc is included in the member's profile interest lists under sexual fetishes rather than in sexual interests where MMF/FFM etc are. I guess cross dressing could be classed as a fetish, but classing a person as a fetish seems a little out of place to me. I don't want to sound like I am the sort of guy that starts committees or something, but I think you deserve a bit of respect and better representation in this regard. I really enjoy your posts in the forum and would be happy to lend my voice to addressing this with RHP if you thought it was relevant. After all I have been given the title of Human Relations in the UNION.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Unrushed, it's long been a contentious point that lumping everything under one banner creates misinformation that perpetuates the myth that being TS is just a fetish, a way of getting your rocks off. Just about every transsexual I know hates the fact that sites like RHP have no idea that such inequities exist, and so they reinforce the perception. It's offensive. To anybody who thinks this is a sad individual who likes to dress as a woman. Try it. Live it. Tell me after a week it's fun, tell me after a month it's easy. When all your friends walk away, when your family disown you, when your marriage is no more. Tell those who go through all that, to be who they are, that it's just a fetish. Within the basket of LGBT is the lie, the LGB part of the equation is around sexual orientation. The very terminology dictates sexual orientation until you get to the T bit, that's were it all goes wrong. One could say that the term "transgendered" is best used to described a person whose gender identity is not Inkeeping with their biological sex, or that "transexual" best describes someone whose sexual orientation is of their own sex! The reality is that a person who is intersexed or classed as a ts, can be any sexual orientation, and still be classed as RS. It's a key and highly relevant differentiator. Long winded I know, I apologies, but it's far harder to just be a woman with this physical problem than a guy with a fetish... So in answer to your question, this is a sex site, not a support site, but RHP does have a responsibility to understand their customers and not perpetuate discrimination through allowing the ignorance to go on. It knows the difference but does it care?

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    From a place of compassionate understanding, I hope they care. Even from purely business point of view, it's in their interests to care wouldn't you say? A demonstration of understanding would attract more members like yourself, and increase other members chances of finding who they are looking for. Win/win?

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Personally I would love to see the terminology separated and a brief explanation to what designation a person chooses, however I think the sub set of tg or the tv/ts is possibly too small to be of commercial or practical interest to RHP. You can ask why but unless there is money in it, I doubt there is a motivation to change. Would it attract more of my ilk, most certainly and increase the awareness of members as to the differences of the label. As a mark of understanding I would say they should.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    For those who took the time and trouble to post, thank you. To those who just read, I hope it made you think twice about the labels we inherit. But a couple of things are clear from this and my previous posts: 1. Few people are aware of the differences in the tg basket2. Fewer people even care, not happening to me or mine so its not my problem3. Its easier to discriminate than it is to ask or listen So the lack of interest in the posts either means my posts are boring, irrelevant or a combination of both! In short, the "So what" principle rules... followed closely by the "Not my problem" and backed up with, "They are just queers" I'd love to be witty at this point and tell the world to grow up, but whats the point.. no one wants to hear the tree fall in the forest... just another tree.. Without eductation there is only discrimination. Hands up Class.. who can answer that question?

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I must admit to knowing very little before 'liking' the Facebook page Gay Marriage Rights Australia last year. They posted regularly about the plights of real people and issues that affected them. It was a real eye opened to me, brought about by an interest in progressive social change, and human sexuality. Christie, there's a saying "don't stop what you are doing, because you never know who is being inspired." Many forums have stats on how many times your thread has been viewed, but alas, RHP does not. It's well known that there are many lurkers of these forums that do not post. Hope they get some courage. I'll answer the question to keep the me from going too far off topic. I was exposed to images of transgender people for the first time with the work of Joel Peter Witkin when I was traveling in artistic counterculture circles in my 20s. His work is quite confronting and macabre, and I was into Heavy Metal and Death Metal at the time, hence it's thematic appeal (I, ahem, listen to folk/roots music these days LOL), yet as art does, it stirred something within me, and made me question what we take as a given in regards to gender and beauty. He used the motifs of the Reclining Venus and The Birth of Venus as a theme in his work, and there was also a mythological element represented there. My personal interest lies in stereotypes of masculinity and femininity, and how limiting and constricting those ideas are when each gender is obviously a combination of both, and in practicing the values of social inclusion, where, at the end of the day, each human is a human, full stop. A brother, or a sister regardless of their presentation. I remember being in an Oxford St bar in Sydney, still young and innocent enough not to know that Oxford St was a liberal meeting place for people of all sexual orientation and genders. There was a transgender woman sitting at the piano by herself sipping on a drink, long platinum hair, red lipstick, and a sheer top that covered shoulders wider than a first rower in a scrum. I wanted to go up to her and tell her how beautiful she was, not because I was attracted to her, but because she was expressing her inner beauty, which I found brave and liberating. I didn't because I fear I would have come across as a patronizing bogan, which I well may have been. I may have been wearing a flanno for all I know, but therein lies my appeal and respect of those brave enough to express what lies within :-D

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Unrushed and Princess, two wonderful posts from totally different perspectives. I guess my current bout of flu, had given me rather a cynical edge, in that, frankly, I doubted who actually cares about the lives of others and how we all so easily discriminate because thats society's way of informing you what they consider right or wrong. But you have both brought different perspecitves to my comments / rantings.. so if I may tackle each in turn. But one thing to remember before I do, I try to paint pictures with words, its something I think I have a knack for, the ability to make people sit up and think. I hope I succeed. Unrushed: Goodness, the world has beauty in most things, we are just not ready to see it. When I see a tgirl walking down the street, in the highest heels you have ever seen, the shortest mini and the biggest chest, long blonde wig etc.. I cringe. At leat I used to, because thats how the world sees all transgendered people, aka Jerry springer or Ru Paul.. so stereotypes are manufactured. I had a mind to approach such a girl I knew but not well and said to her that she would be better off f she dressed more appropriately. Her reply shamed me because I was doing what I was complaining of, conforming to an image that wasn't hers. She wanted the attention because it was her way of expressing herself. A wake up call for me, she looked beautiful but out of place. In my early days of dealing with all this, I assumed we all were the same, just at different points along the way, but as I learnt we are not all on the same journey, its just the rest of society assumes we are all the same. Many transexuals, if they are lucky, would pass you in the street and you would never know they are not what they appear to be. I am lucky, I am one. I have been told on numerous occasions how brave I am, or asked why I made the choice to live as a woman. To the first I say I am not brave, just had to face life or end it, because there comes a time when every transexual, who has fought the demons, tried to adapt, fit into societys model, be a man, but finds eventualy that reality of who you are can never be surpressed for ever, and you have to face yourself. Its scary because in doing so you risk losing everything in your life that is precious, famiy, friends, job, dignity, the list goes on. You have no choice because the key difference is you are a woman leading a man's life. If I was a CD / TV the rational would be different, I would be a man living a womans life. I hope that now makes sense. Like any woman I regret what age has done to me, I regret what my condition has robbed me of, but I thank it for allowing me to see life from a unique perspective, something only a few will ever see. You are laid bare. ridiculed and defamed, loss of friends and loved ones, who just shake their heads and turn away. I remember when I first started my journey in earnest, I had a Scottish female friend who told me that we should have a wake for Chris ( as was) as he was now gone. I was horrified at the time but over the years I realised that as much as I have blended who I am from one to the other, the loss along the way is substantial. People ask me what ever happened to my brother... he was such a nice man..they never realised I was he. Do I know who I influence? well not may Tg I would say, I am not sure if any have ever replied to my posts, which I find strange, but perhaps they haven't faced the demons yet.. Princess.. I am so sorry to have been in your head these past few days, I sent you a friend request and will do so from my other profile as well. (SWB) That I have made you think about the plight of those in my position was never my intent, but I think you have grabbed the essence of my post, and not taken for granted who you are. If there is one thing in life that most of us can do with any certainty, its look in a mirror and say, I know who I am, a man, a woman. Imaging not being able to do that. Or having to hide your past as its slowly but inevitably dies. I imagined I was the sum total of all my experiences in life, the family and morality. That would be what defines me as a person. It is only partly true, for one cannot understand the instincts that are born from gender, masculine or feminine, the instincts that do not match the body given. I amazes people every day, for all the wrong reasons, as an engineer I could tell you the co-efficient of linear expansion of steel at a certain temperature, or read an electrical circuit diagram with ease. But some days I have to sit quietly by as a guy tells me what a coach does in a football team.. ( I was a professional footballer for 10 years in the UK) Life sucks, but its the best life we have! I am blessed to have lived both lives. Without doubt, despite all the heartache and discrimination, I am glad to be who I am today. An exceptional woman.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    ...I don't think you can qualify as having the 'man-flu' any longer! ;-) Christie, thank you for your reply. I can relate to your story on fashion sense. There was an effeminate guy who worked at the Uni I went to. He had long hair and blow dried it straight each day. One day, he, now she, started coming to work dressed in a sheer white dress that you would expect to see on the White House lawn, make up and bling. She looked a million dollars, though, like you felt, seemed a little out of place in that environment. My thoughts were that she would have such an easier time assimilating as a woman if she wore jeans and a T shirt to work, but, what the hell, she was feeling it, and was probably revelling in her new found freedom to express who she is publicly. As to the rest of your post, I think you summed it up in your reply to Mado: "Mado Tara, lol, well I think having to do this empties the tank of BS, all that's left is who you are, thank god!" That's what I like about your presence on the forums. You are a welcome reality check. Keep it up :-)

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Thank you so much for your thoughts, a. Lot of life's experiences make you who you are, so I wonder where that leaves me? Lol, confused probably... I often get down to Sydney for work.. If you ever want to catch up for a drink all you have to do is let me know, no ulterior motives, just sharing of life!

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    You are right, the tank is empty, nothing but reality remains, bit edgy for some, what you see is what you get, well almost. Somethings remain deep and personal, no go areas, no longer afraid of life, only what people do to each other out of malice or a complete lack of concern. RHP is a fantasy site for 80% of the people on it, the rest you have to filter the good the bad and fantastic. Every now and again you find nice people. That's what I look for., that's what I find, thank you.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Sometimes you can allow yourself to get really cynical about people and how life treats you, then you meet nice people, you take a chance and step out a little. I met two great women for drinks last night, never met before but we all have a story, and this is why the forums are such a great social opportunity. It doesn't always have to be about sex. You can meet great people too!

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I'm going back to untick the tv/ts option under fetishes.
    Folks, you made at least one person stop and think today.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'ShyPrincess74' It's always a good day when someone thinks Kermit! :-)
    And now you made me go and double check I actually had! :) (unticked a couple of other boxes, too...)

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I’ve noticed a number of comments on here referring to the bravery of trans people. While I appreciate the sentiment, I find this perspective problematic.
    First, I find it depressing that I have to be brave to merely be who I want to be.
    Second, for every brave trans person, there are likely scores more who suffer in silence. To separate trans people into those who are brave and those who are not both detracts from and undercuts more central issues of trans-related stigma.
    Third, I suspect that personality -- confident and extroverted versus unconfident and introverted -- plays a significant role in whether a trans person will ‘come out’ and/or transition. I believe this is why, generally speaking, the trans people that you notice appear strong and confident, as they’ve likely always been that way.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    4 years ago

    To: SuperFoxxxy Feb 12 2014; I think what you've written ( and said is right on the money) in my opinion,It really comes down to pre-conceptions, thinking inside the box but completely ignorant of anything outside the box of thinking.Its such a shame that those who make the biggest claims to be experts in psychology or some sociology degree's seem to also be the biggest opponents of anyone identifying as CD or transgendered/transexual.I'll just add : Yes it takes alot of introspection,some spending many years questioning not only their gender but also their Sexuality (Ahh yes there is a huge difference between these two cliched labels) I'd suggest Google searching for anyone that doesnt know the difference or relevant information above.. To: everyone else in this thread that left comments; I'd just like to thank them all for their sincere and genuine Opinions and also for keeping this thread positive and on topic.. It is a splendid sight to see ad behold that there is soo much love,respect and understanding,especially after a certain PM forced a PLEBASHITE on the nation,and was forced to concede the Australian People were in support of SS marriage, the liberalised approach and progressive stance for equality not just for gay and lesbian, but every other length and breadth of the gender binary and sexuality spectrum.. PS: in case anyone returns to read this segment I am the former SaphireTS76 returning to Enjoy some Quality reading, whilst we're all suffering this COVID19 pandemic together and awaiting the misery and fear mongering the Media and Governing elites are lauding upon us all.. Peace and Light to everyone ,whom returns to read this thread.. xoxox

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    4 years ago

    Tg is the sexiest sight on earth....A hot chick with nice tits, long hair,blue eyes, and 9 inches of hard cock......imo,even straight men get hard to that

  • Laura98

    Laura98

    4 years ago

    All well and good, but people these days either don't want to meet because of my status as a trans woman, or they treat me like a fetish dispenser.

  • RHP User

    RHP User

    3 years ago

    Firstly let me express I don't feel the same way with males, while I'm attracted to females, I'm still a virgin to the pussy I feel when it comes to sex I'm better at being the on receiving end and take it like all the girls do on porn

  • divame65

    divame65

    2 years ago

    We are definitely have our share in good time and happiness..but we also have our great share
    In a very unhappy times as well.