Recycle, Reuse, Reduce

Recycle, Reuse, Reduce

    | Apr 17, 2018
PeachyPearL   Woman 54yrs
It's been a thing since I was a kid, and something I care about and follow news on.

I love the sites on Facebook where freebies are up for offer etc.

Several stories have struck me in the last few months about bin trials.

One included fines for not sorting recycling correctly, something I'll add to later if this thread goes to air.

I don't think Perth even has a recycling facility these days and the majority of our carefully rinsed and sorted recycling ends up going to the tip anyway. I am, as always happy to be corrected.

Today I read they are trialling see-thru bins in Mindarie.

Most worrying news is that China is refusing to take any extra rubbish anymore.

I wondered on people's thoughts on the topic of minimising our mark on our environment in general, and the ways and means governments are trying to achieve it. Peachy
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Obsidian  

Man 47yrs

It is a vexed question.

It amazes me that we have to ship our recycling to China. That there isn't enough demand for the recycled product here, out of the entire country, to support a comprehensive recycling facility.

Also I imagine most councils consider the costs of dealing with recycling from ratepayers as an unwelcome import - it would be much cheaper for them to do one bin run that dumps everything to landfill. You just have to look at many countries in Europe where they have separate bins just for different types of glass (brown, green, clear) to see how far we have to go here.

So that means on an individual level we have to do what we can, when we can, to reduce our waste burden. It might be small fry in the grand scheme but it is still non-zero, and one day it will be forced upon us so we might as well start adapting now.

- Posted from rhpmobile
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Rlee552   Man 42yrs

Podcast

Slightly off point. There is a podcast called The Philosophers Arms. It discusses ethical conundrums, and one was titled free riders. It talked about the little harms. That we think it is only a little harm that I am doing, so it does not have a big impact. But we all do those little harms and it adds up. And I related that to recycling. How often do we think with an item of recycling that it is just easier to put it in general waste ... as it is only the one item and in the grand scheme of things it does not make a difference. Which is the wrong way of looking at it.



Listen to it if you get a chance.
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pangolin28   Man 48yrs

Mmmm

The recycling reuse thing has been around as Peachy said for a bloody long time, growing up a little alternatively I was always aware. The biggest problem we have is our governments feeding us bullshit about them doing something ( a huge push for look at us since the global warming hooha came about). We recycle shit loads and then it is mass pollution transporting it and if you were not aware of this you still think great their doing something. Then the mass pollution recycling these products, half of what we recycle ends up in land fill because we don't have enough storage space. I could go on and on but just google the truth about recycling in Australia. Just doing your little bit is all we can do but think more on what packaging and companies you are buying from this makes just as much difference.
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Lovechild17   Woman 47yrs

I noticed that....

City of Swan are from June offering verge collection by booking online at your convenience. No more set times. I don't know if any other shires are doing it?

As for recycling my mum is a mad recycler and has reduced her footprint to almost nothing. She even works at a recycling plant and her next plan is to purchase an electric car. Lol



LC.
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PeachyPearL   Woman 54yrs

Let's Talk Rubbish ;-)

Thanks everyone, great to see replies we can get our teeth into... figuratively.

Obsidian, you remind me of something my husband told me, about Germany where manufacturers and have to pay for a "Green Dot" on packaging. The more packaging, the higher the fee. We could learn a lot from Europe.

A favourite idea of mine is to make use of the individuals who are part of groups on Facebook dedicated towards saving treasures, making a living out of, and / or simply reducing the rubbish sent to landfill from bulk collections. Make a dedicated force towards making the most of what people thrown out instead of denigrating them as scabs.

My heart broke when a now ex friend who'd moved house told me quite proudly how they had thrown out 1,000s of cds and dvds because they didn't need them any more. I also had the misfortune of experiencing their blase attitude for their recycling bin. Just chuck everything in there!

As individuals, we try to do small things here but we could do way better. Peachy
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PeachyPearL   Woman 54yrs

Rlee, not at all off-point really

I appreciate your point from the perspective that I like to save coins and $5 notes. They do add up over time and we've bought a car and had 2 holidays using my hoarding ways. An old saying, "Take care of the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves" makes sense here?

Now if we can just look at not making rubbish and look at saving our world.

I will check out the podcast you mentioned later tonight. Peachy
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PeachyPearL   Woman 54yrs

Pangolin

Quoting 'pangolin28'

The recycling reuse thing has been around as Peachy said for a bloody long time, growing up a little alternatively I was always aware. The biggest problem we have is our governments feeding us bullshit about them doing something ( a huge push for look at us since the global warming hooha came about). We recycle shit loads and then it is mass pollution transporting it and if you were not aware of this you still think great their doing something. Then the mass pollution recycling these products, half of what we recycle ends up in land fill because we don't have enough storage space. I could go on and on but just google the truth about recycling in Australia. Just doing your little bit is all we can do but think more on what packaging and companies you are buying from this makes just as much difference.

We have some slack government policies it can't be denied.

By all means, go on, it looks like I struck a similar chord in you.

I do agree that taking personal responsibility is the best thing we can do ourselves. I think I'll dig up some ideas to add later. Cheers, Peachy
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PeachyPearL   Woman 54yrs

Lol Lovechild.




Quoting 'Lovechild17'
I noticed that....

City of Swan are from June offering verge collection by booking online at your convenience. No more set times. I don't know if any other shires are doing it?


As for recycling my mum is a mad recycler and has reduced her footprint to almost nothing. She even works at a recycling plant and her next plan is to purchase an electric car. Lol

LC.
I read a lot of stories in groups and this is one I came across too. I'm not sure how impressed I am with the idea yet. I understand residents have to sign up for certain windows?

I love your mother's story, thank you so much for sharing that. Peachy
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Rlee552   Man 42yrs

Condoms

Recycle, reuse or reduce?




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vampavibe   Woman 38yrs

Jeez




Quoting 'PeachyPearL'

My heart broke when a now ex friend who'd moved house told me quite proudly how they had thrown out 1,000s of cds and dvds because they didn't need them any more. I also had the misfortune of experiencing their blase attitude for their recycling bin. Just chuck everything in there!

O. M. G.
Words fail me.
Still trying to lift my lower jaw up off the floor Peachy.
No wonder your heart was broken.



































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PeachyPearL   Woman 54yrs

:-D




Quoting 'Rlee552'
Condoms

Recycle, reuse or reduce?

According to the onsite seeking preferences... reduction of size or frequency, or use is out of the question! Peachy


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PeachyPearL   Woman 54yrs

Vampa

You should see the things people throw out. It's no wonder our tips are filling to overflowing. Peachy
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vampavibe   Woman 38yrs

Apologies




for the formatting of my previous post here.

I was attempting to delete lines not insert them so not sure what happened there.

Please forgive.

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vampavibe   Woman 38yrs

On that note




Quoting 'PeachyPearL'

You should see the things people throw out. It's no wonder our tips are filling to overflowing. Peachy


it annoys and saddens me no end when I see items such as old sofas and prams dumped in railway station car parks.

What on earth goes through people's minds when they do such things?!?

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EarthQueen   Woman 47yrs

CD’s

I wouldn’t proudly throw them out but what’s the point in keeping them now? It’s way simpler and easier to use a music app? Much rather this and it’s way better for environment in the long run? I don’t even own a CD player anymore

- Posted from rhpmobile
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PeachyPearL   Woman 54yrs

EarthQueen

The whole point of the thread is the waste we throw out without a second thought adding to a burden of rubbish we have no place for or way to get rid of.



As a techno dino, I would have happily rehomed those discs for the remainder of my lifetime.



Copy and paste for some facts, an American site but the most comprehensive info I could find...





What are CDs and DVDs Made of?



CD/DVD recycling is so easy because of the materials they’re made of. Even though CDs are made of highly valuable recyclable materials like polycarbonate plastic and aluminum, they’re not accepted in Novak single-stream recycling bins. CD recycling saves substantial amounts of energy and prevents significant amounts of both air and water pollution attributed to the manufacturing of these items from raw material.



Each year, billions of CDs (and DVDs) are manufactured, while millions are simply thrown away. They end up in landfills and incinerators, which causes unnecessary damage to our environment, wasted energy, and the loss of valuable resources. Landfills are not a viable disposal option because CDs don’t break down readily. Over time, CDs can release Bisphenol A (BPA), which can cause health implications in humans. Burning CDs releases toxic fumes into the air we breathe, and they require a special recycling process that isn’t accepted in single-stream recycling bins.



Consider This:

To manufacture a pound of plastic (30 CDs per pound), it requires 300 cubic feet of natural gas, 2 cups of crude oil and 24 gallons of water.

It is estimated that it will take over 1 million years for a CD to completely decompose in a landfill.

More than 5.5 million boxes of software go to landfills and incinerators, plus people throw away millions of music CDs each year!

Every month approximately 100,000 pounds of CDs become obsolete (outdated, useless, or unwanted).
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Koolgrey   Man 44yrs

. . . .

I upgraded to a new iPod a few months ago because my old one was full to capacity and dying.
In the process of uploading to the new one, all my music was deleted from iTunes and my laptop. Or rather, it had been deleted months earlier...it just looked like it was there.
A bit of frantic online researching turned up that it's not uncommon. Years of operating system updates caused unintended things to happen in the background.
Fortunately, I have a box in a cupboard with years of collected CD's, thousands of songs, and iTunes keep a record of the 500 odd that I'd purchased from them over the years.
At iTune's current download prices, that's thousands of dollars worth of music I nearly lost. Glad I kept them.

Saw an interesting Youtube article last night on the energy demands of Bitcoin...in short, that in 2018 its needs will triple again, and mining it will require as much electricity as the entire nation of Argentina.
In 2017 it burned as much power to produce as Denmark does....and the biggest producers of it are in places like Iceland, where they take advantage of the geothermal energy and the cold temperatures necessary to keep their super-processors cool enough to operate.
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jennifer102   Woman 46yrs

Cds

I did the same Kool. Except didn't keep my CES. I was furious. However. I did decide to just listen to what I still had and if a tune came up on the radio, in my head etc I'd search it out. So far haven't received much of my older music which just goes to show how much crap I probably had!!
As for waste, check out Sweden who is running out of rubbish as they reduced waste overall. Maybe we should investigate that and reduce ours too. Except Condoms..........nooooooo.

- Posted from rhpmobile
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EarthQueen   Woman 47yrs

CD’s again

Peachy I hate waste and am pretty green and I always put my stuff out for free on the curb. Never bin it if I can help it. But there is now some things that people just don’t want. CD’s and DVD’s come to mind. It’s not easy to recycle them and barely anyone wants them now. I’m glad there’s apps like Spotify it creates much less waste in the long term, Except artists do lose out. That’s why I spend lots of money on concerts. Experiences rather than stuff is the way to go for me. I rarely buy anything new anymore.
Except for condoms 😛

- Posted from rhpmobile
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PeachyPearL   Woman 54yrs

Kool

Quoting 'Koolgrey'

I upgraded to a new iPod a few months ago because my old one was full to capacity and dying.
In the process of uploading to the new one, all my music was deleted from iTunes and my laptop. Or rather, it had been deleted months earlier...it just looked like it was there.
A bit of frantic online researching turned up that it's not uncommon. Years of operating system updates caused unintended things to happen in the background.
Fortunately, I have a box in a cupboard with years of collected CD's, thousands of songs, and iTunes keep a record of the 500 odd that I'd purchased from them over the years.
At iTune's current download prices, that's thousands of dollars worth of music I nearly lost. Glad I kept them.

Saw an interesting Youtube article last night on the energy demands of Bitcoin...in short, that in 2018 its needs will triple again, and mining it will require as much electricity as the entire nation of Argentina.
In 2017 it burned as much power to produce as Denmark does....and the biggest producers of it are in places like Iceland, where they take advantage of the geothermal energy and the cold temperatures necessary to keep their super-processors cool enough to operate.

Thanks for that, I've crashed the computer more than once and lost all our music listings. So I know how you feel about having the CDs available to recopy!

I'm still editing since my last loss, lol. It's all backed up on a couple of other devices now though. And will be backed up on the mobile I got for my birthday last year once I get around to moving the micro sd card from the tablet it is currently residing in.

You just blew my mind with the Bitcoin info. You also led me to the high cost of streaming to the environment. Wow.

Peachy

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